Supercharging
Melting Slicks
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From: Sleepy Hollow- NJ
It took me longer to get used to going from stock to H/C (120 rwhp/50rwtq gain) than it did to go from H/C to FI (another 216rwhp/178rwtq gain). I wanted another 100 rwhp minimum within the first 2 months post FI.
If I drove my C5 more I likely would have done it already.
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Running Guns & Moonshine
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From: CT
The real trick with power is once you get used to it, going backwards is a breeze. But you also will never be impressed with stock again.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
Le Mans Master
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2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
St. Jude Donor '21-'22
The real trick with power is once you get used to it, going backwards is a breeze. But you also will never be impressed with stock again.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
Running Guns & Moonshine
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From: CT
I had a brief dream of owning two supercharged C5s. And for a few days it was a reality. But once I began rebuilding the newer one I sold the AA procharger kit to fund the shortblock.
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Racer
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From: Southern Indiana
The real trick with power is once you get used to it, going backwards is a breeze. But you also will never be impressed with stock again.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
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Racer
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From: Southern Indiana
Absolutely! You'll likely get used to it quicker than you think.
It took me longer to get used to going from stock to H/C (120 rwhp/50rwtq gain) than it did to go from H/C to FI (another 216rwhp/178rwtq gain). I wanted another 100 rwhp minimum within the first 2 months post FI.
If I drove my C5 more I likely would have done it already.
First World problems
It took me longer to get used to going from stock to H/C (120 rwhp/50rwtq gain) than it did to go from H/C to FI (another 216rwhp/178rwtq gain). I wanted another 100 rwhp minimum within the first 2 months post FI.
If I drove my C5 more I likely would have done it already.
First World problems
Running Guns & Moonshine
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I was pondering this recently. I greatly enjoy tinkering. I alter most tools and equipment I own. Computers, cars, radios, firearms, home electronics, you name it. And while I do enjoy all the nit picky slow work I do on the Z06 I am pushing myself to sit out there each night and 'let the cold in' a little bit as it has still been in the 20s here at night. But fun as it is to tinker, the balance of the work has been done to the car such that if I can get over the hump with the annoying custom wiring then really the rest is basic wrenching and assembly. I'd like to get this thing fired up and go from a build to a driving car and enjoy it some while finishing the rest of the details off between drives.
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Racer
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From: Southern Indiana
I was pondering this recently. I greatly enjoy tinkering. I alter most tools and equipment I own. Computers, cars, radios, firearms, home electronics, you name it. And while I do enjoy all the nit picky slow work I do on the Z06 I am pushing myself to sit out there each night and 'let the cold in' a little bit as it has still been in the 20s here at night. But fun as it is to tinker, the balance of the work has been done to the car such that if I can get over the hump with the annoying custom wiring then really the rest is basic wrenching and assembly. I'd like to get this thing fired up and go from a build to a driving car and enjoy it some while finishing the rest of the details off between drives.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Sleepy Hollow- NJ
The real trick with power is once you get used to it, going backwards is a breeze. But you also will never be impressed with stock again.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
I took the 10psi kit off the coupe two or three years ago and immediately dropped from 500rw to 340rw and I cannot tell you how much fun that car became because it turned that NA driving experience into 'driving a slow car fast' and man can these cars shine when they have even slight suspension upgrades. It can still drive better than I can, but my sense of confidence in the chassis and power level went through the roof.
That's also why I'm all for DR's on a car that makes big power. Sure you can keep your car controlled with either tire but you have a lot more throttle opportunity to be aggressive with a tire that sticks. So my vote is for a fast car I can drive fast.
Melting Slicks
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From: Sleepy Hollow- NJ
I still have a few other vehicles to play around with but they aren't nearly as satisfying to modify as a C5.
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100% I've always said the same. It's more fun to have a slower car that you can drive fast vs. a fast car you have to drive slow. However, I drove my brothers mostly stock FRC about two years ago (it had been many years since I drove a stock C5) and I was quickly brought back to the days and times I realized these cars are fun but not fast from the factory.
That's also why I'm all for DR's on a car that makes big power. Sure you can keep your car controlled with either tire but you have a lot more throttle opportunity to be aggressive with a tire that sticks. So my vote is for a fast car I can drive fast.
That's also why I'm all for DR's on a car that makes big power. Sure you can keep your car controlled with either tire but you have a lot more throttle opportunity to be aggressive with a tire that sticks. So my vote is for a fast car I can drive fast.
Le Mans Master
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From: cold & windy
thought so, too - but pulleying up to 4psi (from 13) made mine a lot more manageable for horsing around... and i almost liked it
it did suck *****, though.
Hands down right on sticky tires. Sticky tires start a domino effect. When they hook, the car experiences weight transfer, putting more pressure on the tires, making them stick even better, which adds more transfer. Sure there's a limit, but you gotta have sticky tires. One thing I never really thought about on drag racing, until a guy at work pointed it out, and that's height. I asked him why? He said imagine a 300lb driver in a car with no roof, with the seat 5 ft above the normal height. When you leave, the car will want to run out under you, which transfers all that weight to the tires, like the driver is a breaker bar trying to pull back on the car. So now when I'm at the track, I lift both power seats as high as they go. It's not a 5 ft high seat, and I'm not a 300 pounder, but you get the idea. Hey, the guy has a '64 Nova with a 572 BBC that runs 8s, so.....Sorry, another hijack!! Dammit
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Racer
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From: Southern Indiana
shoot - i just changed the clutch in my wife's hummer last week when it was 10°.
it did suck *****, though.
bet it did suck but the wife’s always come first whatever they want/need
it did suck *****, though.
bet it did suck but the wife’s always come first whatever they want/need
Melting Slicks
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From: Sleepy Hollow- NJ
Hands down right on sticky tires. Sticky tires start a domino effect. When they hook, the car experiences weight transfer, putting more pressure on the tires, making them stick even better, which adds more transfer. Sure there's a limit, but you gotta have sticky tires. One thing I never really thought about on drag racing, until a guy at work pointed it out, and that's height. I asked him why? He said imagine a 300lb driver in a car with no roof, with the seat 5 ft above the normal height. When you leave, the car will want to run out under you, which transfers all that weight to the tires, like the driver is a breaker bar trying to pull back on the car. So now when I'm at the track, I lift both power seats as high as they go. It's not a 5 ft high seat, and I'm not a 300 pounder, but you get the idea. Hey, the guy has a '64 Nova with a 572 BBC that runs 8s, so.....Sorry, another hijack!! Dammit
It's the same concept in modified tractor pulling competitions. Lighten the front end, add weight to the back with grippy tires, raise your seat position and arch backwards at "go" to transfer your weight to the tires. My nephews have been destroying the 16 and under class in the Tri-state since they were 7 and 9.
I'm 6'3 without a helmet on. When I go to the track my *** is as far down to the floor as possible. Otherwise I'm not fitting in my car. So seat goes down, sway bar comes off and stickies stay out back.
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From: Iowa
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '26
honestly, it sounds like you just need to get more familiar with the 98 throttle percentages between 1% & 100%. i'm laying down ~650tq from a PD blower on street tires & can reliably control it through all gears (though i've gotten sideways from smashing it in any of the first 4 gears). not ******* on you - just saying having a ton of power can still be controllable.
but as for tires, i've enjoyed the Falken RT615K+ set i'm running now. Nitto Invo was alright but let loose pretty easy when you got on it... planned on doing the 140TW NT05s but they kept sending 3-4yr old tires. that's when i went with the Falkens.
but as for tires, i've enjoyed the Falken RT615K+ set i'm running now. Nitto Invo was alright but let loose pretty easy when you got on it... planned on doing the 140TW NT05s but they kept sending 3-4yr old tires. that's when i went with the Falkens.
Le Mans Master
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From: cold & windy
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I just replaced my Nitto Invo tires as I thought they totally sucked. Even with a whopping tire size, 345/30/19, and stock engine horsepower, I got little traction. Replaced the Nitto tires with Michelin tires (which were big $) but have yet to use them as winter hasn't left us alone in Iowa yet.
I just replaced my Nitto Invo tires as I thought they totally sucked. Even with a whopping tire size, 345/30/19, and stock engine horsepower, I got little traction. Replaced the Nitto tires with Michelin tires (which were big $) but have yet to use them as winter hasn't left us alone in Iowa yet.
outside of drag radials or R-comps, i was down to my falkens or the 140 NT05s (at least without changing wheels) to get a better set of non-runflats.
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Exactly why removing the front sway bar is popular at the 1/4 mile track. The sway bar inhibits front end rise. Removing it allows more weight transfer to the rear tires. No brainer.
It's the same concept in modified tractor pulling competitions. Lighten the front end, add weight to the back with grippy tires, raise your seat position and arch backwards at "go" to transfer your weight to the tires. My nephews have been destroying the 16 and under class in the Tri-state since they were 7 and 9.
I'm 6'3 without a helmet on. When I go to the track my *** is as far down to the floor as possible. Otherwise I'm not fitting in my car. So seat goes down, sway bar comes off and stickies stay out back.
It's the same concept in modified tractor pulling competitions. Lighten the front end, add weight to the back with grippy tires, raise your seat position and arch backwards at "go" to transfer your weight to the tires. My nephews have been destroying the 16 and under class in the Tri-state since they were 7 and 9.
I'm 6'3 without a helmet on. When I go to the track my *** is as far down to the floor as possible. Otherwise I'm not fitting in my car. So seat goes down, sway bar comes off and stickies stay out back.
