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I've had a 1970 convertible, a 1996 convertible, a 1996 coupe, and now a 2002 with the Targa top. Perhaps I'm spoiled, but compared to my Ram, Honda Accord, and SL500, the C5 is really noisy driving over 50 - 60. It's even louder than my wife's Santa Fe.
Just curious if this is fairly common. I've checked the hatch seal and plan to remove the top and inspect that seal also. The noise isn't really the wind noise whistling, just road noise and obnoxiously loud in general.
Yes, they are loud inside.
I quieted mine down by a HUGE amount with some sound deadener installation, covered all the cargo area and rear wheel wells, night and day difference.
I also got rid of a ton of rattles and squeaks with the installation of C7 seats.
I've had a 1970 convertible, a 1996 convertible, a 1996 coupe, and now a 2002 with the Targa top. Perhaps I'm spoiled, but compared to my Ram, Honda Accord, and SL500, the C5 is really noisy driving over 50 - 60. It's even louder than my wife's Santa Fe.
Just curious if this is fairly common. I've checked the hatch seal and plan to remove the top and inspect that seal also. The noise isn't really the wind noise whistling, just road noise and obnoxiously loud in general.
Yup, I fix mine by adding 3500watts stereo system. No more annoying noise.
Removed the top and adjusted the seal, also coated it with seal-glide. Found a major issue while inspecting the seals. All seals are good, but the passenger glass is not seated correctly in the window regulator and needs to be adjusted about 1/4" toward the rear. That should make a difference. I'm going to look into some sound deadening mat for the cargo area and floorboards.
Removed the top and adjusted the seal, also coated it with seal-glide. Found a major issue while inspecting the seals. All seals are good, but the passenger glass is not seated correctly in the window regulator and needs to be adjusted about 1/4" toward the rear. That should make a difference. I'm going to look into some sound deadening mat for the cargo area and floorboards.
Some good threads about that here on the forum. Single noisiest place is the wall behind each seat. It’s mostly the flat panels like that, the rear cargo area, door skins.
note the tires on the rear are the width of 4 regular SUV tires in some cases. They have aggressive tread and make noise. Less sound damping contributes to the noise. Coupes can amplify the sound.
Some good threads about that here on the forum. Single noisiest place is the wall behind each seat. It’s mostly the flat panels like that, the rear cargo area, door skins.
Much like the Harley Forum, same format and probably same owners, the Forum search function is very lacking.
Did anyone use blankets or pads to see where to most effective area areas are before installing deadening? Not sure if it will work, but I plan to test it out next week.
Much like the Harley Forum, same format and probably same owners, the Forum search function is very lacking.
Did anyone use blankets or pads to see where to most effective area areas are before installing deadening? Not sure if it will work, but I plan to test it out next week.
Forum search depends on how you state your search terms and how you format the search.
As to sound deadening, using blankets to test is not going to be very effective, the sound is transmitted by vibration, the deadening works by being attached firmly to the panels, blankets won't do that.
It's a 20+ year old, with old weather seals, plastic car with plastic interior, wide tires and a performance engine with nonexistent noise reducing insulation from the factory. Yeah, they are all "loud" in comparison to modern cars made of metal with ample sound deadening insulation. Especially if there's an aftermarket exhaust added to the mix.
It's a 20+ year old, with old weather seals, plastic car with plastic interior, wide tires and a performance engine with nonexistent noise reducing insulation from the factory. Yeah, they are all "loud" in comparison to modern cars made of metal with ample sound deadening insulation. Especially if there's an aftermarket exhaust added to the mix.
I get it and will deal with some of it. Seals are surprisingly good, no aftermarket exhaust, and yes, I may be making unfair comparisons. Potential Blasphemy, I have a 2004 SL500 (Convertible), as fast or faster, tires as wide, and it is quiet, top up or down.
Just ordered some 120Mil sound deadening material to work on the major target areas first. Going to focus on the areas directly behind the seats and the rear cargo area first. It will be a Work in Progress.
I get it and will deal with some of it. Seals are surprisingly good, no aftermarket exhaust, and yes, I may be making unfair comparisons. Potential Blasphemy, I have a 2004 SL500 (Convertible), as fast or faster, tires as wide, and it is quiet, top up or down.
Just ordered some 120Mil sound deadening material to work on the major target areas first. Going to focus on the areas directly behind the seats and the rear cargo area first. It will be a Work in Progress.
The C5 is basically thin flimsy plastic on the outside. It's going to be noisy no matter what.
Some sound deadening material in the tunnel, behind the seats and in the trunk will help.
My 2004 BMW 645ci convertible is MUCH quieter inside than my C5 coupe in every way. It's also a fat pig by comparison from a performance perspective (drives reallly nicely though) and was $30k more. The SL500 is in no way as fast stock vs. stock as a C5. Unless the C5 has the 2.73 gear and there's something wrong with it. My best friend traded his '01 Z06 in for an SL500 circa 2003. My m6 coupe at that time only had a catback and a Blackwing and I blew his doors off multiple times. From a dig and rolling.
The MB was a pleasure to drive but not nearly as fast as a healthy C5 with a 3.42 in stock form. Same as my 645ci, the MB is a nice driving car that's solid and full of sound deadening material. Which makes them overweight and ultimately slow by comparison. But different tools for different jobs
PS...that passenger window of yours being off kilter has a lot to do with added noise. I've had to adjust mine a few times over 25 years. When the glass isn't seated properly and the tip-in isn't correct it's as noisy as a frickin wind tunnel inside the car.
PS...that passenger window of yours being off kilter has a lot to do with added noise. I've had to adjust mine a few times over 25 years. When the glass isn't seated properly and the tip-in isn't correct it's as noisy as a frickin wind tunnel inside the car.
I definitely agree with that. Didn't even realize it was wind noise from that side until I visually saw the gap. After that I checked and lowering the window didn't make that much difference, proof it is the source of much noise.
I'll do a little testing over the next couple of weeks, but at this point perhaps I'm not putting enough foot into the Vette. The SL feels more responsive to the pedal, definitely not a Fat Pig. I get we're talking Apples and Oranges, I was just expecting more Pep than I've felt so far. Also, aside from acceleration because of the noise the speed definitely doesn't sneak up on you in the Vette, while I have to watch the SL or I'll be going much faster than expected. Haven't and won't be testing on a road course, but they both handle very well.
Once you have that window sorted out, the in cabin noise reduction will be like night and day.
You didn't mention if you have an mn6 C5 or an A4. If you have an A4 which gearset does it have? The 2.73 being the slowest of all. The 3.15 being the performance option for the A4. But even the 2.73 will do the 1/4 under 14 seconds. The SL500 on the other hand does the 1/4 mile in just under 15 seconds. The SL having 40 less HP about 10 less torque and weighing almost 900 lbs more than the C5. The SL may feel faster to you, but its absolutely not. Unless there is something wrong with your vette (other than it being an auto LOL!).
I'm sure you'll find once the window is adjusted there is significant improvement on the noise.
PS...drive by wire does present a lag in throttle response in the C5. Especially in an A4. The factory tune on the shift points is also very soft. Having a performance tune will "wake it up" (even with all else being stock) from a throttle response and trans shiftpoint perspective. However, a better gear (3.42+) better converter, and the tune provides a much more effective performance improvement in an otherwise stock A4.
I test drove a stock A4 with 2.73 once. It was atrocious.
Much like the Harley Forum, same format and probably same owners, the Forum search function is very lacking.
Did anyone use blankets or pads to see where to most effective area areas are before installing deadening? Not sure if it will work, but I plan to test it out next week.
Quality butyl mat for the base, followed by foam. In acutely loud areas, like behind the seat, panel in front of the license plate, center section of cargo floor, and wheel wells benefit from a top layer of mass loaded vinyl (MLV). Good luck.