Column Locked after recall
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From: Hendersonville NC
Seems like everybody is a bit pissy from the CF outage. I learn a great deal from people here, and often it is Evil Twin. Not defending anyones comments but I have had the same issues with the ECL recall and CLB fix. Personally, I did the recall to have compliance for warranty purposes, and now bought the CLB from Corvettes of Houston. It was actually Evil's comments that got me off my butt a couple of days ago to buy the CLB. There is a great deal of confusion and frustration with this issue. There were some posts about the CLB not being the proper fix either. I sure was confused, because of the pin's role in the locking plate and how the CLB resolves that. Soon as it arrives and I do the install, I will probably better understand it. It really sucks that GM is endangering our life's and not stepping up to their obligations with a proper fix. We should direct our frustrations at them. Peace! 
Melting Slicks
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From: Lake Martin ALABAMA
We should all be channelling our gripes to Chevy, not each other.
Here we are , all singing praise to Dave Hill, when we should really
be burning him in effigy, since GM continues to obviously pretend the C/L
problem is just a figment of our imagination.
These bums at GM have got thair last dollar from me. What good is a
"supercar" if you cant trust it to go to the corner store without stranding you.
This whole C/L problem is a major embarrassment , but no-one outside our Corvette community ever heard of it.
Well, I'm doing my part to badmouth these bums every chance I get.
They have had 8 years to fix this problem, and they CONTINUED
BUILDING cars with a known problem.
Loyalty works both ways, Mr. Hill ............You don't give any, you sure shouldn't expect any back.
Here we are , all singing praise to Dave Hill, when we should really
be burning him in effigy, since GM continues to obviously pretend the C/L
problem is just a figment of our imagination.
These bums at GM have got thair last dollar from me. What good is a
"supercar" if you cant trust it to go to the corner store without stranding you.
This whole C/L problem is a major embarrassment , but no-one outside our Corvette community ever heard of it.
Well, I'm doing my part to badmouth these bums every chance I get.
They have had 8 years to fix this problem, and they CONTINUED
BUILDING cars with a known problem.
Loyalty works both ways, Mr. Hill ............You don't give any, you sure shouldn't expect any back.
Melting Slicks
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From: Orland Park Illinois
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Originally Posted by steve badalamenti
We should all be channelling our gripes to Chevy, not each other.
Here we are , all singing praise to Dave Hill, when we should really
be burning him in effigy, since GM continues to obviously pretend the C/L
problem is just a figment of our imagination.
These bums at GM have got thair last dollar from me. What good is a
"supercar" if you cant trust it to go to the corner store without stranding you.
This whole C/L problem is a major embarrassment , but no-one outside our Corvette community ever heard of it.
Well, I'm doing my part to badmouth these bums every chance I get.
They have had 8 years to fix this problem, and they CONTINUED
BUILDING cars with a known problem.
Loyalty works both ways, Mr. Hill ............You don't give any, you sure shouldn't expect any back.
Here we are , all singing praise to Dave Hill, when we should really
be burning him in effigy, since GM continues to obviously pretend the C/L
problem is just a figment of our imagination.
These bums at GM have got thair last dollar from me. What good is a
"supercar" if you cant trust it to go to the corner store without stranding you.
This whole C/L problem is a major embarrassment , but no-one outside our Corvette community ever heard of it.
Well, I'm doing my part to badmouth these bums every chance I get.
They have had 8 years to fix this problem, and they CONTINUED
BUILDING cars with a known problem.
Loyalty works both ways, Mr. Hill ............You don't give any, you sure shouldn't expect any back.
w/ steve b 100%. The cruds at GM are ones we should be pissed at.... 
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
I use alittle tough love to try to get someones attention... I've been on the inside of the corvette design group for over 20 years., and an automotive engineer for 30+. Ive posted the problems with this car and the right fix... GM is constrained by laws that wont allow them to remove the pin motor but you sure can... If I didnt care about Corvette owners and their problems.. I would not post here... If you think I have an abusive personality.. tough... If you get a little chuckle out of my screen personality , thats great because thats all it is... so many people tell me that when they see my screen name in a post they go to see what I have to say... because usually it makes their bad day alittle brighter.If you cant see that , your blind.
Last edited by Evil-Twin; Sep 1, 2004 at 08:24 AM.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I use alittle tough love to try to get someones attention... I've been on the inside of the corvette design group for over 20 years., and an automotive engineer for 30+. Ive posted the problems with this car and the right fix... GM is constrained by laws that wont allow them to remove the pin motor but you sure can... If I didnt care about Corvette owners and their problems.. I would not post here... If you think I have an abusive personality.. tough... If you get a little chuckle out of my screen personality , thats great because thats all it is... so many people tell me that when they see my screen name in a post they go to see what I have to say... because usually it makes their bad day alittle brighter.If you cant see that , your blind.
Scott
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Originally Posted by Rattler71
You have to understand something Evil, we are all grown men here with successful careers or we couldn't afford this car to begin with. I don't appreciate being talked to as if I was a 5 year old kid. I personally think you are a little in love-with yourself.
Scott
Scott
Get a sense of humor.. your so up tight my friend that it would take a tractor to pull a needle out of your azz. and get your eyes checked too...
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From: small town in S.E Pa. PA
St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Originally Posted by Rattler71
You have to understand something Evil, we are all grown men here with successful careers or we couldn't afford this car to begin with. I don't appreciate being talked to as if I was a 5 year old kid. I personally think you are a little in love-with yourself.
Scott
Scott
Get a sense of humor.. your so up tight my friend that it would take a tractor to pull a needle out of your azz. and get your eyes checked too... some of us are multi layered and very complex... you on the other hand are layerless.
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From: Pembroke Pines Florida
Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I can feel your pain Rattler71 honest I can . I didnt think you were as smart as you are but your comment about me being in love with my self is so right on !!!! If you were me, you would be in love with me too>>> Get a sense of humor.. your so up tight my friend that it would take a tractor to pull a needle out of your azz.
and get your eyes checked too... some of us are multi layered and very complex... you on the other hand are layerless.
Get a sense of humor.. your so up tight my friend that it would take a tractor to pull a needle out of your azz. and get your eyes checked too... some of us are multi layered and very complex... you on the other hand are layerless.
<---see I do have a sense of humor!Scott
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I am pulling your chain Rattler71 
IM really a nice guy ask my mom.
IM really a nice guy ask my mom."It hurts so good"
Hey maybe you are getting it..
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Glad to see you guys on the same page. I just wish the CLB would work on our 98. I may try some surgery of my own on this issue.
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Originally Posted by Mark 84ltblu
Glad to see you guys on the same page. I just wish the CLB would work on our 98. I may try some surgery of my own on this issue.
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Melting Slicks
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So i got the car back yesterday, they didnt do a damn thing besides excatly what they did the first time....
So where can I see how to remove the pin myself and where is the best price on a CLB?
So where can I see how to remove the pin myself and where is the best price on a CLB?
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St. Jude Donor '03-'05-'06-'07
Originally Posted by Villian C5
So i got the car back yesterday, they didnt do a damn thing besides excatly what they did the first time....
So where can I see how to remove the pin myself and where is the best price on a CLB?
So where can I see how to remove the pin myself and where is the best price on a CLB?
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A new take on A4 CLBs?Maybe I'm wrong.......
[QUOTE=kenrobb]On the A4's, they don't actually remove the locking pin. They put a different locking plate in that has " no holes" for the locking pin to engage. Actually the plate is a spacer washer. The pin still is activated, it just doesn't have anything to lock. The same assembly could be used in a 6-speed, QUOTE]This is interesting. I assumed that they pulled the pin mechanism AND did something with the software on A4s. Someone tell me if the following logic is wrong; What if you had an A4 and had them put in the spacer without holes and then the pin didn't retract. I realize that the steering would still work, but would the computer sense that the pin was "engaged" and still cut off the fuel supply?
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
IM sorry I cant be of more help but i know there is a 97/98 fix out there.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=881814
It appears that this Harness K should do the trick
"IM sorry" - Evil don't go soft on us now
Last edited by roscoe118; Sep 1, 2004 at 02:31 PM.
Racer
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GMC did not honor the recall for me
I need suggestions. I paid to have the column lock fixed about a month ago. The very next day I received the recall notice. When I turned in my paperwork for reimbursement they said the dealer is saying that I had something other than what the recall is fixed? How many problems can a column steering lock being stuck have? Can someone clear this up for me?