Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Service Column Lock Message

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:46 AM
  #1  
MYBLU71's Avatar
MYBLU71
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
From: Morganton GA
Default Service Column Lock Message

Hello All. In the past week, I have started getting messages here and there about "remove key, wait 10 sec" on my 2000 vert/auto. I remove the key and wait, then put it back in and start it up... most times... Then, this morning I got the "Service Column Lock" message and the car died!!! I had the Column Lock Bulliten performed on my car a couple of years ago and this is the first time I have had the problem. Any one else see this? Any ideas on why it is happening? Any responses would be appreciated. I am going to wait until GM Customer Assistance line opens and call them as well. In the meantime, I am calling one of the local dealers and ask them.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:50 AM
  #2  
CAJUNY2KC5's Avatar
CAJUNY2KC5
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,374
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville Florida
Default

Welcome to Column Lock Central.

Fortunately you have an A4 and the current recall service should take care of that. (I also have a 00 A4 and had the recall work done). Your dealer should also take care of any towing required.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:59 AM
  #3  
MYBLU71's Avatar
MYBLU71
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
From: Morganton GA
Default

Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
Welcome to Column Lock Central.

Fortunately you have an A4 and the current recall service should take care of that. (I also have a 00 A4 and had the recall work done). Your dealer should also take care of any towing required.
The problem is that I also had the recall work done a couple of years ago!! I have called the dealer and they want to "get the car in and check it"... I explained everything to them and there is a possibility that a reflash of the programming in March may have just caught up with them... I have read other threads that some later cars include a new program to go with the new harness that the dealer installs...
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 08:20 AM
  #4  
StuzVette's Avatar
StuzVette
Cherish your Hopes...
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,072
Likes: 236
From: West Palm Beach FL
Cruise-In VII Veteran
St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07
Default

Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
Welcome to Column Lock Central.

Fortunately you have an A4 and the current recall service should take care of that. (I also have a 00 A4 and had the recall work done). Your dealer should also take care of any towing required.
Im going with the recall service...let GM pay for it for sure...
I just hate to hear anyone get stranded...
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 08:21 AM
  #5  
CAJUNY2KC5's Avatar
CAJUNY2KC5
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,374
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville Florida
Default

I don't think the work done a couple years ago is the same as what is being currently done under the recall.

Mine locked several months ago before I got the recall notice. The dealer took care of it but told me that was not the final GM resolution for A4s.

The recall for A4s disables the pin itself.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 08:24 AM
  #6  
MYBLU71's Avatar
MYBLU71
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
From: Morganton GA
Default

Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
I don't think the work done a couple years ago is the same as what is being currently done under the recall.

Mine locked several months ago before I got the recall notice. The dealer took care of it but told me that was not the final GM resolution for A4s.

The recall for A4s disables the pin itself.
Jim, The work done in 01 was to disable the pin. The column doesn't lock anymore with the key removed. I just got off of the phone with the GM Assistance Line and they have started a case. I will be getting the car to the dealer for "diagnosis" and if it is related, they will cover the work. If it is something else, I am responsible for the repair minus whatever I can squeeze out of the GM Assistance Center... I will keep everyone updated on the progress.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 08:29 AM
  #7  
CAJUNY2KC5's Avatar
CAJUNY2KC5
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,374
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville Florida
Default

Originally Posted by MYBLU71
Jim, The work done in 01 was to disable the pin. The column doesn't lock anymore with the key removed. I just got off of the phone with the GM Assistance Line and they have started a case. I will be getting the car to the dealer for "diagnosis" and if it is related, they will cover the work. If it is something else, I am responsible for the repair minus whatever I can squeeze out of the GM Assistance Center... I will keep everyone updated on the progress.
I dunno. It could be your PCM still thinks the column is security locked and is cutting off your fuel. Seems like that would be why you're getting the DIC code and it's shutting off. I know when mine locked (in a public parking lot) the fuel cut off worked just fine

I think GM should still take care of it for you. Good luck and let us know what you find out.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:36 AM
  #8  
Quasar21's Avatar
Quasar21
Burning Brakes
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 10
From: Fernandina Beach Florida
Default

Originally Posted by MYBLU71
Hello All. In the past week, I have started getting messages here and there about "remove key, wait 10 sec" on my 2000 vert/auto. I remove the key and wait, then put it back in and start it up... most times... Then, this morning I got the "Service Column Lock" message and the car died!!! I had the Column Lock Bulliten performed on my car a couple of years ago and this is the first time I have had the problem. Any one else see this? Any ideas on why it is happening? Any responses would be appreciated. I am going to wait until GM Customer Assistance line opens and call them as well. In the meantime, I am calling one of the local dealers and ask them.
Did you have a column lock bypass installed already before you took it in for the recall?
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:24 AM
  #9  
MYBLU71's Avatar
MYBLU71
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
From: Morganton GA
Default

Quasar99, I have never had the Column Bypass installed. The dealer that did the recall did it without asking me before doing it... that was in 2001. As part of the recall, the steering wheel doesn't lock anymore when you remove the key... this is true on all automatics that have the recall performed on them. This problem just started and is a real PITA!! I will find out Monday what the problem is and who will be paying for the repair. We have a show this weekend or I would take it in today.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:32 AM
  #10  
Quasar21's Avatar
Quasar21
Burning Brakes
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 10
From: Fernandina Beach Florida
Default

Originally Posted by MYBLU71
Quasar99, I have never had the Column Bypass installed. The dealer that did the recall did it without asking me before doing it... that was in 2001. As part of the recall, the steering wheel doesn't lock anymore when you remove the key... this is true on all automatics that have the recall performed on them. This problem just started and is a real PITA!! I will find out Monday what the problem is and who will be paying for the repair. We have a show this weekend or I would take it in today.
MYBLU71, the reason I asked was because, I too had the recall done by the dealer after specifically telling them not to do it because I had the CLB. After the recall I started getting the 'Pull Key Wait 10 Sec' on a regular basis and even got the 'Service Column Lock' message' even though I knew my CL was disabled. It appears that my problem was a result of the technician plugging the Harness K into my Column lock Bypass rather than into the Column Lock. I disconnected the Harness K from my Bypass and the message has not returned. I'd venture a guess that what you have is a bad relay in the Harness K that they installed during the recall.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:33 AM
  #11  
Automag928's Avatar
Automag928
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,164
Likes: 0
From: Lutz FL
Default

This is the absolute worst feeling in the world...



If you have a manual get a CLB kit. If you have an auto, take it to your dealer and have the lock plate removed... But avoid this at all costs...It sucks!
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:27 AM
  #12  
Quasar21's Avatar
Quasar21
Burning Brakes
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 10
From: Fernandina Beach Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Automag928
This is the absolute worst feeling in the world...



If you have a manual get a CLB kit. If you have an auto, take it to your dealer and have the lock plate removed... But avoid this at all costs...It sucks!
Man! A full tank of gas and you can't go anywhere!
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:33 AM
  #13  
Mike2013's Avatar
Mike2013
Team Owner
20 Year Member
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 25,225
Likes: 449
From: Sun Coast of Florida
St. Jude Donor '03-'26
Default

Glad I have an '04 A4!
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 01:30 PM
  #14  
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
Vetteman Jack
Administrator
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Veteran: Reserves
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 367,704
Likes: 24,675
From: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '25
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran
Default

You probably need to have the most current recall work done on your car. They put a plate in there that keeps the locking pin from engaging, thereby eliminating the column lock feature.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:13 PM
  #15  
MYBLU71's Avatar
MYBLU71
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
From: Morganton GA
Default

Quasar99, No problem. Thanks for everyones responses. I will have it in on Monday and then see what they tell me. I think the girl is just being a little bit fussy because we have a DSOM 05 vert on order and it should be in in Oct timeframe... She thinks that we aren't going to be showing her as much attention..
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 10:22 AM
  #16  
MYBLU71's Avatar
MYBLU71
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
From: Morganton GA
Default

Well, typical dealer!!! Took the car in this morning. They can't find any codes in the computer and they can't get it to fail!!! I nearly came unglued and ripped them a new one... I knew I should have pulled the codes before I took it in! It did it again on me this past weekend!

I gave painfully clear details to the "tech" looking at the car and he told me "...there have been some flaky early BCM's and they will erase the codes and lose the VATS information and have to relearn them..."

I will see what they tell me next...
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 10:46 AM
  #17  
CAJUNY2KC5's Avatar
CAJUNY2KC5
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,374
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville Florida
Default

Did they at least install the harness and complete the specified recall work for you?

The only reason I ask is that might at least narrow down the possible options on why it's throwing codes and shutting off fuel. Sometimes tech reps have to prove the obvious to themselves.

I sure hope you don't have a bad module.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Service Column Lock Message

Old Sep 13, 2004 | 10:59 AM
  #18  
Joe's Eray's Avatar
Joe's Eray
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 8,291
Likes: 790
From: Naples Florida
Default

Originally Posted by JDs00PewterCoupe
You probably need to have the most current recall work done on your car. They put a plate in there that keeps the locking pin from engaging, thereby eliminating the column lock feature.
Why dont GM give the M6 guys that plate? I am thankful though I have the CLB.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:34 AM
  #19  
roscoe118's Avatar
roscoe118
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,737
Likes: 10
From: Austin, Texas
Default

Originally Posted by BrightRed C5 SWFL
Why dont GM give the M6 guys that plate? I am thankful though I have the CLB.
Because with an A4, the transmission is locked in PARK, so the car can not be moved (if an actual theft is occuring). Since the M6 can be taken out of gear, the column needs to be locked.

Thank Goodness for the CLB

Reply
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 02:14 PM
  #20  
Torqued84's Avatar
Torqued84
Racer
 
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 415
Likes: 0
From: Fairfax, VA 22032
Default

Originally Posted by BrightRed C5 SWFL
Why dont GM give the M6 guys that plate? I am thankful though I have the CLB.
I painfully learned this lesson this morning. $600 for a new MN6 column lock motor I asked if they could just remove the darn thing and they said no, it would still throw the codes and shut off the fuel pump. That's probably a lie too.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:55 PM.

story-0
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE