Column-lock hits Dave68
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Sorry to hear this, Dave. But at least it happened in your garage.
I for one am thankful that you tried this experiment because how else are we going to rule variables out? Once everything else drops out of the equation and all we have left is the CL itself, then we can unequivocably recommend the bypass to all manual tranny owners and the block-off plate to A4 owners that stumble into this site.
Thanks for conducting your experiment and for posting your results.
And get that friggin' CLB installed.
I for one am thankful that you tried this experiment because how else are we going to rule variables out? Once everything else drops out of the equation and all we have left is the CL itself, then we can unequivocably recommend the bypass to all manual tranny owners and the block-off plate to A4 owners that stumble into this site.
Thanks for conducting your experiment and for posting your results.
And get that friggin' CLB installed.
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Tough Crowd 
, but I can feel the love. I've got to admit, you're a much bigger man than me to 'fess up to this at this point :o
So now, with the $50K, are you going to buy a C6 and start another
"experiment"
, but I can feel the love. I've got to admit, you're a much bigger man than me to 'fess up to this at this point :o So now, with the $50K, are you going to buy a C6 and start another
"experiment"
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Originally Posted by BW1
Maaaan... I hope this is just good natured ribbing by friends! Dave didn't have to fess up on this.
Yea, this is what I hate about this forum...everyone looovvvess to cut people down...SEE I TOLD YOU SO!! what a bunch of babies,,CHILL OUT
how many of you have used Dave68's instructions to install your Halltech Stinger, or looked into the cold air mod he did... for someone who has made some very helpful contributions to this forum you guys need to back the F*** off and show some respect. He didn't have to make the post and fess up. He never cut-down on the CLB.. he did research and posted the poll etc... just being an honest person and sharing his experience and you guys flame him for his mis-fortune
I'll remember this next time I screw up or have a simple question the last place I'll post it is here!!
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St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
Originally Posted by Patches
Sorry to hear this, Dave. But at least it happened in your garage.
I for one am thankful that you tried this experiment because how else are we going to rule variables out? Once everything else drops out of the equation and all we have left is the CL itself, then we can unequivocably recommend the bypass to all manual tranny owners and the block-off plate to A4 owners that stumble into this site.
Thanks for conducting your experiment and for posting your results.
And get that friggin' CLB installed.
I for one am thankful that you tried this experiment because how else are we going to rule variables out? Once everything else drops out of the equation and all we have left is the CL itself, then we can unequivocably recommend the bypass to all manual tranny owners and the block-off plate to A4 owners that stumble into this site.
Thanks for conducting your experiment and for posting your results.
And get that friggin' CLB installed.
and realize there are some decent people still out there.!!! I wish more people thought the way you did.
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Maaaan, I feel like I have a few good brothers in this forum. Thanks, guys! I guess there are no shortage of stern dads around here...reminds me of my motorcycle accident way back when.........
By the way, my battery experiment is still going strong!
Roscoe, I had to conjure up something to fend off the mud-slinging, heh heh!
By the way, my battery experiment is still going strong!
Roscoe, I had to conjure up something to fend off the mud-slinging, heh heh!
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St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
[QUOTE=Dave68]Maaaan, I feel like I have a few good brothers in this forum. Thanks, guys! I guess there are no shortage of stern dads around here...reminds me of my motorcycle accident way back when.........
it's all about the brotherhood
for what it's worth , this post that you made today has pushed me over the edge to order the CLB (MN6) I already had the latest recall done..but that's it..it's CLB time for me.
hope everything works out and you get your car back ASAP.
it's all about the brotherhood for what it's worth , this post that you made today has pushed me over the edge to order the CLB (MN6) I already had the latest recall done..but that's it..it's CLB time for me.
hope everything works out and you get your car back ASAP.
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Baldy,
I just got it back this morning and when the service manager told me that I won't have to worry about the column locking anymore, I replied, "Yep, I sure won't!"
I'm glad you're getting the bypass; we don't need to experiment with this issue any more!
I just got it back this morning and when the service manager told me that I won't have to worry about the column locking anymore, I replied, "Yep, I sure won't!"
I'm glad you're getting the bypass; we don't need to experiment with this issue any more!
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Baldy,
I just got it back this morning and when the service manager told me that I won't have to worry about the column locking anymore, I replied, "Yep, I sure won't!"
I just got it back this morning and when the service manager told me that I won't have to worry about the column locking anymore, I replied, "Yep, I sure won't!"
Knowing there is not a fix for MN6's and the service manager saying no more worry about the column locking, does that mean you had the dealer install your CLB?
Last edited by ROCKnROLL; Sep 24, 2004 at 03:59 PM.
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Dave, keep in mind that the CLB is not compatible with your intake modifications. I suggest a Blackwing, it will provide another 5 RWHP over what you are using.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
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Originally Posted by unstressed
Dave, keep in mind that the CLB is not compatible with your intake modifications. I suggest a Blackwing, it will provide another 5 RWHP over what you are using.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
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Originally Posted by ROCKnROLL
Dave,
Knowing there is not a fix for MN6's and the service manager saying no more worry about the column locking, does that mean you had the dealer install your CLB?
Knowing there is not a fix for MN6's and the service manager saying no more worry about the column locking, does that mean you had the dealer install your CLB?
Dave, keep in mind that the CLB is not compatible with your intake modifications. I suggest a Blackwing, it will provide another 5 RWHP over what you are using.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
This just scared the beejeezus outta me. I have bought a CLB unit from forum member jmx for months now and never installed it. It will go in this weekend.
Thanks for the warning Dave.
Thanks for the warning Dave.
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Originally Posted by unstressed
Dave, keep in mind that the CLB is not compatible with your intake modifications. I suggest a Blackwing, it will provide another 5 RWHP over what you are using.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
Tis has got to be the craziest/smartest/most insane post I've ever read on CF! 
What the hell have you been drinking on this Friday night?
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Originally Posted by unstressed
Dave, keep in mind that the CLB is not compatible with your intake modifications. I suggest a Blackwing, it will provide another 5 RWHP over what you are using.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
This has got to be the craziest/smartest/most insane post I've ever read on CF! What the hell have you been drinking on this Friday night?
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I have only had the vette since July and heard enough horror stories about the locking column that I just got the oil changed (for free thanks) and kindly insisted they look at it and fix it since I think every vette is under recall for this problem. 
Now I feel certain I won't be adding any post titled "I should've , could've, would've"
Now I feel certain I won't be adding any post titled "I should've , could've, would've"
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HEY DAVE68
You must feel like sister teresa!
I was really pulling for your view that the clb was not needed if you treated the steering wheel with respect.
After reading your experience I ordered a clb from thunder racing today!
I really wanted to keep the car stock, but after adding roller rockers, frame savers, Z06 lid, Z06 bars and now Z06 exhausts, I was only kidding myself. These are all things the c5 should have had anyway!
Many thanks for your post. I'll guarantee if I did this, many uncounted here ordered one today.
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You must feel like sister teresa!
I was really pulling for your view that the clb was not needed if you treated the steering wheel with respect.
After reading your experience I ordered a clb from thunder racing today!
I really wanted to keep the car stock, but after adding roller rockers, frame savers, Z06 lid, Z06 bars and now Z06 exhausts, I was only kidding myself. These are all things the c5 should have had anyway!
Many thanks for your post. I'll guarantee if I did this, many uncounted here ordered one today.
g
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Originally Posted by bipp>C5
I have only had the vette since July and heard enough horror stories about the locking column that I just got the oil changed (for free thanks) and kindly insisted they look at it and fix it since I think every vette is under recall for this problem.
Now I feel certain I won't be adding any post titled "I should've , could've, would've"
Now I feel certain I won't be adding any post titled "I should've , could've, would've"
I hate to break the news to you but since you have the MN6 (according to your profile), the factory recall does not "fix" the column lock. They only reprogrammed your computer so when the lock does fail (and it will) the fuel will be cut off. If you have heard all the horror stories as you claim, then you should have also read that most agree the Column Lock Bypass kit is the only sure fix.
Last edited by WWK888; Sep 24, 2004 at 08:54 PM.
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Originally Posted by unstressed
Dave, keep in mind that the CLB is not compatible with your intake modifications. I suggest a Blackwing, it will provide another 5 RWHP over what you are using.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
Additionally, the current draw from the CLB will cause stray eddy currents that will cause a gaussian flux near your HUD, significantly reducing the amount of varactance in the circuit, effectively reducing Avogadro's number from 6.02214199 × 10E23 to 6.02214198 x 10E23.
I suggest adding a 23.7 picofarad capacitor to your horn circuit, then wrapping your clear roof panel in ferrite.
Another suggestion is to add an ECL 245 buffer chip to the seat memory circuit, then extending your steering wheel to the farthest position, while sitting in a pile of crushed salsa flavored pringles.
Lastly, reprogram the ECU in Fortran, with Cobol extentions, and changing the processor to a PDP11.
