Electrical Gremlin(s), Dash/Brake Lights
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
While installing my Vararam, I came across what is refered to as a SPLICE PACK. You see them in the schematics as a point that numerous ground wires terminate to and it is labled as SP-101.
I have often wondered what the hell a SP is and looks like?
Not saying that is the problem but it's good to know anyway for future reference:
Nice and water tight! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have often wondered what the hell a SP is and looks like?
Not saying that is the problem but it's good to know anyway for future reference:
Nice and water tight! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2003
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Originally Posted by vizette
I have a similar issue, but mine is intermittant. Sometime the lights work fine, sometimes I have to sit and flick the switch a dozen or more times, and they will eventually come on.
-Rich
-Rich
That's how mine started and then it finally stopped working all together and my night driving ended. It's not that bad to swap out and you'll save some big money.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Sep 2003
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From: Wesley Chapel Fl
Bill......I have seen alot of those splice packs go back. In my vette and other cars. Every SP I have found under my hood I have removed, soldered the wires together, soldered a ring terminal to them, and then remounted. I have done some of the interior ones also.
4th Gear
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4
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From: Woodstock IL
I'm having the same problem w/ my 98 as described before...
No tail lights
No fog lights
No dash lights
Brake lights work
Going to try the multi-switch....as recommended. Will post again with results.
No tail lights
No fog lights
No dash lights
Brake lights work
Going to try the multi-switch....as recommended. Will post again with results.
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Joined: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by IM QUIKR
Mark,
I have your answer. I just had the exact same problem last spring. It's all in the turn signal multi switch.
SX:
tail lights gone
fog lights gone
dash lights gone
Brake lights work
GM parts direct was the cheapest at$132 shipped and the install was easy. You need a few torx bits to get at it but all in all a 30 minute job.
EDIT: What the H***! I thought this was new. I'm sure you figured it by now.
I have your answer. I just had the exact same problem last spring. It's all in the turn signal multi switch.
SX:
tail lights gone
fog lights gone
dash lights gone
Brake lights work
GM parts direct was the cheapest at$132 shipped and the install was easy. You need a few torx bits to get at it but all in all a 30 minute job.
EDIT: What the H***! I thought this was new. I'm sure you figured it by now.
Last edited by slither; Oct 14, 2005 at 01:13 AM.
4th Gear
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4
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From: Woodstock IL
Just got the car back from the shop today. They replaced the multi-switch and so far so good. Luckily it was under warranty and I only had to pay my deductable. I actually brought a printout of this thread to the dealership. They confirmed a short in the multi-switch. Will report if issues arise.
Racer
Joined: Jun 2002
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From: royal oak mi
Does anyone have a schematic of the wires for the multiswitch?
I am having all the same symptoms so I replaced my multiswitch, but it did not take care of the problems.
I would like to try and jumper some of the wires to see if I got a bad switch or if I have some other problem.
Thanks
I am having all the same symptoms so I replaced my multiswitch, but it did not take care of the problems.
I would like to try and jumper some of the wires to see if I got a bad switch or if I have some other problem.
Thanks
Last edited by sacsrpc; Jul 26, 2005 at 07:53 AM.
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From: Kentucky
Yea I am needing the schematics as well if anyone has them. My dad just bought a 2000 FRC with some issues. I will referance most of those in another post but basically what is happeneing is similar. His Signal Lights are intermitten as well as the 4 ways. All other lights work. No problems with the brake lights or anythign else. I had a similar issue with a the 4 way blinker switch in an 2001 Olds Alero. I was thinking it may be teh 4 way switch like in the olds. If you have them could someone please email them to me or let me know where I can find them. I would appreciate it. Just out of curiosity where is that SP located?
Damon
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Last edited by BadMonkey; Jul 25, 2005 at 10:51 PM.
Instructor
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 181
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From: The Woodlands TX
Same problem, now fixed!!
I had the same problem on my 99 coupe, changed the multi-switch (turn signal wand assembly), everything works great now... I would think Chevy would recall this. At night with no tailights and/or dash lights to me is a safty issue...Yes??? The dealership that I purchsed the new wand at said they've seen some issues with these wands. So if Chevy (GM) knows about this, why don't they do the right things and step up to the plate to take care of these saftey issues. Just my 2 cents.
