New headlights soon...
Burning Brakes
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From: New England
Originally Posted by mray
schpodie--
Objectives are:
conform to the natural curvey lines of the C5 and enhacne those features with this kit.
Maybe with or without a clear lens
Utilize stock attachment points
4 round modules
Clear lens equipped units may have option for body colored shrouds (ie C6 blacked out vs monochromatic).
Utilize the exact dimensions of the headlight cover as the overall size of the fixed unit.
Integrate it better with the body itself
No exposed screws.
Hope that helps.
Objectives are:
conform to the natural curvey lines of the C5 and enhacne those features with this kit.
Maybe with or without a clear lens
Utilize stock attachment points
4 round modules
Clear lens equipped units may have option for body colored shrouds (ie C6 blacked out vs monochromatic).
Utilize the exact dimensions of the headlight cover as the overall size of the fixed unit.
Integrate it better with the body itself
No exposed screws.
Hope that helps.
Cruising
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From: baytown tx
headlights and fogs
I got rid of the current fogs, like they do something anyway maybe just to keep you from tripping. But I went with the pias. Wow what a difference. And just in time, kept me from running over tire drippings from 18 wheelers. I put pias in the headlights also but not much help
Race Director
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Originally Posted by dennis mccarty
I got rid of the current fogs, like they do something anyway maybe just to keep you from tripping. But I went with the pias. Wow what a difference. And just in time, kept me from running over tire drippings from 18 wheelers. I put pias in the headlights also but not much help
Just a thought.
Drifting
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From: Walnut CA
Originally Posted by mray
I can't answer that. I would like to say yes, but I don't have a good idea what the demand is. And most likely I won't have a good idea until I build the protos and put some pics out. I can pump out a couple hundred kits a month... 
Absolutely. But, I am not going to commit myself just yet. My goal is to be sub $600 for exposed/popup halogen and probably $1200 for HID exposed/popup.
I am confident you will be pleased.
Absolutely. But, I am not going to commit myself just yet. My goal is to be sub $600 for exposed/popup halogen and probably $1200 for HID exposed/popup.
I am confident you will be pleased.
Burning Brakes
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From: New England
Originally Posted by Paras
Assuming that I'm comparing apples to apples, I believe that a new forum company (Bling Lights?) is selling the HID popup conversion for like $300/$400... just FYI
These are entirely new housings designed to be used with HID lighting, unlike POS kits installed in the factory housings.
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Racer
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From: Issaquah Wa
Originally Posted by 98blucobra
Very interested. U have me on the edge of my seat wanting these lights. Opps, just fell off. 
In the mean time can anyone recommend some brighter bulbs?
In the mean time can anyone recommend some brighter bulbs?Yeah, you're right...I should probably stop posting until they are all built and finished.
Drifting
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From: hamilton nj "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne
[QUOTE=mray]Just an FYI from the "General" forum...
The second will be a fixed kit using the same options/specs as above. I have seen and heard about a few other fixed kits and believe we can do better and provide a better value.
Count me in for these!!
The second will be a fixed kit using the same options/specs as above. I have seen and heard about a few other fixed kits and believe we can do better and provide a better value.
Count me in for these!!
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Racer
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From: Issaquah Wa
There are two types of upgrades being offered across the automotive platform today; retrofits and conversions.
There are two types of retrofits:
1) Rebased HID bulbs that are designed to plug into an existing headlamp that was originally designed for a halogen bulb.
2) The installation of a projector assembly originally designed as a sealed unit (projector within a bmw, VW, etc) within a headlamp into another sealed headlamp. The latter is typically a hand built, one by one project which is not a quality, mass produceable product.
A conversion is the entire replacement of the lamp assembly (which includes the lens, reflector, optics, bracket, etc...) with one that is a complete unit, including the bulbs, and is a matched system designed to deliver compliant, but improved lighting. There are very few conversions of quality design.
Make no mistake, I am not intending to offer a retrofit. It is very illegal from a manufacturing point of view. The kits I will offer will be a conversion and include all the peices necessary to install right into your vette.
SS930, new lenses, brackets, projectors, housings, wiring and HID's for under $600---nope..not from me. Halogens, maybe....and that would be an improvement over stock.
There are two types of retrofits:
1) Rebased HID bulbs that are designed to plug into an existing headlamp that was originally designed for a halogen bulb.
2) The installation of a projector assembly originally designed as a sealed unit (projector within a bmw, VW, etc) within a headlamp into another sealed headlamp. The latter is typically a hand built, one by one project which is not a quality, mass produceable product.
A conversion is the entire replacement of the lamp assembly (which includes the lens, reflector, optics, bracket, etc...) with one that is a complete unit, including the bulbs, and is a matched system designed to deliver compliant, but improved lighting. There are very few conversions of quality design.
Make no mistake, I am not intending to offer a retrofit. It is very illegal from a manufacturing point of view. The kits I will offer will be a conversion and include all the peices necessary to install right into your vette.
SS930, new lenses, brackets, projectors, housings, wiring and HID's for under $600---nope..not from me. Halogens, maybe....and that would be an improvement over stock.
Le Mans Master
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From: State of Confusion.
Originally Posted by Knowme
Some of us who have SW C5R (non pop ups) will we have an option to upgrade our projectors with HIDs?
From the sounds of these, there might be some C5R's for sale when these come out, because these sound Nice! Might be time for a change!
Please keep us posted Mike!
Last edited by FreddyG; Mar 7, 2005 at 12:39 PM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Lake Oswego, Near Portland Oregon
Originally Posted by Wah
Is there a kit that uses 200mm rectangular sealed beams or Hella semi-sealed beams ?
The reflectors/headlights are cheap at $38 a piece for a nice Hella (half price of a T84) and it has an extremely nice E-code pattern with the ability of using H4 bulbs with ungodly power ratings.
The reflectors/headlights are cheap at $38 a piece for a nice Hella (half price of a T84) and it has an extremely nice E-code pattern with the ability of using H4 bulbs with ungodly power ratings.
Supporting Tuner
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From: RevXtreme.com Tampa, FL
Originally Posted by LuvmyC5
You can do that now! I have them in mine, Just go to Rev Xtreme on the left side vendor list, and talk to Dino! They have a nice product, and GREAT customer service! I highly recommend them!
From the sounds of these, there might be some C5R's for sale when these come out, because these sound Nice! Might be time for a change!
Please keep us posted Mike!
From the sounds of these, there might be some C5R's for sale when these come out, because these sound Nice! Might be time for a change!
Please keep us posted Mike!
Melting Slicks
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From: NC
Originally Posted by mray
There are two types of upgrades being offered across the automotive platform today; retrofits and conversions.
There are two types of retrofits:
1) Rebased HID bulbs that are designed to plug into an existing headlamp that was originally designed for a halogen bulb.
2) The installation of a projector assembly originally designed as a sealed unit (projector within a bmw, VW, etc) within a headlamp into another sealed headlamp. The latter is typically a hand built, one by one project which is not a quality, mass produceable product.
A conversion is the entire replacement of the lamp assembly (which includes the lens, reflector, optics, bracket, etc...) with one that is a complete unit, including the bulbs, and is a matched system designed to deliver compliant, but improved lighting. There are very few conversions of quality design.
Make no mistake, I am not intending to offer a retrofit. It is very illegal from a manufacturing point of view. The kits I will offer will be a conversion and include all the peices necessary to install right into your vette.
SS930, new lenses, brackets, projectors, housings, wiring and HID's for under $600---nope..not from me. Halogens, maybe....and that would be an improvement over stock.
There are two types of retrofits:
1) Rebased HID bulbs that are designed to plug into an existing headlamp that was originally designed for a halogen bulb.
2) The installation of a projector assembly originally designed as a sealed unit (projector within a bmw, VW, etc) within a headlamp into another sealed headlamp. The latter is typically a hand built, one by one project which is not a quality, mass produceable product.
A conversion is the entire replacement of the lamp assembly (which includes the lens, reflector, optics, bracket, etc...) with one that is a complete unit, including the bulbs, and is a matched system designed to deliver compliant, but improved lighting. There are very few conversions of quality design.
Make no mistake, I am not intending to offer a retrofit. It is very illegal from a manufacturing point of view. The kits I will offer will be a conversion and include all the peices necessary to install right into your vette.
SS930, new lenses, brackets, projectors, housings, wiring and HID's for under $600---nope..not from me. Halogens, maybe....and that would be an improvement over stock.
Ding Ding Ding....Anthing going on with this?
...George
Safety Car
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From: San Diego, CA "leaf" "tee" "e"
Mray, I don't know about the DOT regs, but will it meet these California regs?
California Code of Regulations > Title 13. Motor Vehicles > Division 2. Department of the California Highway Patrol > Chapter 2. Lighting Equipment > Article 2. Identification Markings
Section 630. Permanent Markings.
Each lens and housing shall be permanently and legibly marked with the manufacturer's or vendor's name, initials or lettered trademark, the model designation, and other specified markings. Lens markings need not be the same as housing markings. Markings shall be imprinted on a permanently attached nameplate, die-stamped, or molded in the locations specified in this title. In lieu of other methods of marking, gaseous discharge bulbs, flashers, and the backs of sealed optical units may be marked with indelible ink.
Section 631. Size of Markings.
Required markings and at least one letter of a lettered trademark shall be not less than 3.0 mm (0.12 in.) in height. Raised molded markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on lenses with an area of less than 13 cm2 (2 in.2) or on housings with a projected area less than 25 cm2 (4 in.2). Indelible ink markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on bulbs with a base diameter of less than 10.0 mm (0.40 in.).
There are a few other sections that would be nice to follow, but the markings will be readily available for any cops to see. That's kind of important to me, especially since I may become a cop myself.
California Code of Regulations > Title 13. Motor Vehicles > Division 2. Department of the California Highway Patrol > Chapter 2. Lighting Equipment > Article 2. Identification Markings
Section 630. Permanent Markings.
Each lens and housing shall be permanently and legibly marked with the manufacturer's or vendor's name, initials or lettered trademark, the model designation, and other specified markings. Lens markings need not be the same as housing markings. Markings shall be imprinted on a permanently attached nameplate, die-stamped, or molded in the locations specified in this title. In lieu of other methods of marking, gaseous discharge bulbs, flashers, and the backs of sealed optical units may be marked with indelible ink.
Section 631. Size of Markings.
Required markings and at least one letter of a lettered trademark shall be not less than 3.0 mm (0.12 in.) in height. Raised molded markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on lenses with an area of less than 13 cm2 (2 in.2) or on housings with a projected area less than 25 cm2 (4 in.2). Indelible ink markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on bulbs with a base diameter of less than 10.0 mm (0.40 in.).
There are a few other sections that would be nice to follow, but the markings will be readily available for any cops to see. That's kind of important to me, especially since I may become a cop myself.
Last edited by leaftye; Apr 25, 2005 at 07:55 PM.
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Racer
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From: Issaquah Wa
Originally Posted by georgec114
Ding Ding Ding....Anthing going on with this?
...George
...George
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Racer
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From: Issaquah Wa
Originally Posted by leaftye
Mray, I don't know about the DOT regs, but will it meet these California regs?
California Code of Regulations > Title 13. Motor Vehicles > Division 2. Department of the California Highway Patrol > Chapter 2. Lighting Equipment > Article 2. Identification Markings
Section 630. Permanent Markings.
Each lens and housing shall be permanently and legibly marked with the manufacturer's or vendor's name, initials or lettered trademark, the model designation, and other specified markings. Lens markings need not be the same as housing markings. Markings shall be imprinted on a permanently attached nameplate, die-stamped, or molded in the locations specified in this title. In lieu of other methods of marking, gaseous discharge bulbs, flashers, and the backs of sealed optical units may be marked with indelible ink.
Section 631. Size of Markings.
Required markings and at least one letter of a lettered trademark shall be not less than 3.0 mm (0.12 in.) in height. Raised molded markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on lenses with an area of less than 13 cm2 (2 in.2) or on housings with a projected area less than 25 cm2 (4 in.2). Indelible ink markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on bulbs with a base diameter of less than 10.0 mm (0.40 in.).
There are a few other sections that would be nice to follow, but the markings will be readily available for any cops to see. That's kind of important to me, especially since I may become a cop myself.
California Code of Regulations > Title 13. Motor Vehicles > Division 2. Department of the California Highway Patrol > Chapter 2. Lighting Equipment > Article 2. Identification Markings
Section 630. Permanent Markings.
Each lens and housing shall be permanently and legibly marked with the manufacturer's or vendor's name, initials or lettered trademark, the model designation, and other specified markings. Lens markings need not be the same as housing markings. Markings shall be imprinted on a permanently attached nameplate, die-stamped, or molded in the locations specified in this title. In lieu of other methods of marking, gaseous discharge bulbs, flashers, and the backs of sealed optical units may be marked with indelible ink.
Section 631. Size of Markings.
Required markings and at least one letter of a lettered trademark shall be not less than 3.0 mm (0.12 in.) in height. Raised molded markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on lenses with an area of less than 13 cm2 (2 in.2) or on housings with a projected area less than 25 cm2 (4 in.2). Indelible ink markings not less than 2.0 mm (0.08 in.) in height may be used on bulbs with a base diameter of less than 10.0 mm (0.40 in.).
There are a few other sections that would be nice to follow, but the markings will be readily available for any cops to see. That's kind of important to me, especially since I may become a cop myself.
Yes and yes...these are identical to the Fed regs.