BlackWing vs. VaraRam
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Korreck
I never said he posted it. Happened in Florida. Hit a puddle of water. HYDROLOCK. Do a search on Google and see if you can find anyone. 
Racer
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From: Portland Oregon
From Redgar
"My case was an extreme case. It was mix of torrential downpoor, unfamiliar roadway, panic to try and keep up, excessive speed and sheer stupidty in trying to restart the car.
I have a vararam now but not for that reason"
You base your hydrolock worries on that? OIGH!
-Ken
"My case was an extreme case. It was mix of torrential downpoor, unfamiliar roadway, panic to try and keep up, excessive speed and sheer stupidty in trying to restart the car.
I have a vararam now but not for that reason"
You base your hydrolock worries on that? OIGH!
-Ken
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by Scoundrl
From Redgar
"My case was an extreme case. It was mix of torrential downpoor, unfamiliar roadway, panic to try and keep up, excessive speed and sheer stupidty in trying to restart the car.
I have a vararam now but not for that reason"
You base your hydrolock worries on that? OIGH!
-Ken
"My case was an extreme case. It was mix of torrential downpoor, unfamiliar roadway, panic to try and keep up, excessive speed and sheer stupidty in trying to restart the car.
I have a vararam now but not for that reason"
You base your hydrolock worries on that? OIGH!
-Ken
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From: Banner Elk NC
St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by Scoundrl
From Redgar
"My case was an extreme case. It was mix of torrential downpoor, unfamiliar roadway, panic to try and keep up, excessive speed and sheer stupidty in trying to restart the car.
I have a vararam now but not for that reason"
You base your hydrolock worries on that? OIGH!
-Ken
"My case was an extreme case. It was mix of torrential downpoor, unfamiliar roadway, panic to try and keep up, excessive speed and sheer stupidty in trying to restart the car.
I have a vararam now but not for that reason"
You base your hydrolock worries on that? OIGH!
-Ken
If you never drive in the rain it would be no worry. 
Are the HP & Preformance gains really worth the risk if you drive in heavy rain? 
I Love my Vette but I drive in all weather conditions (except snow & ice)and this is the last thing I would want to worry about! 
Therefore I will never have one on mine. 
Just my .05 cents... 
Racer
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From: Portland Oregon
You can Hydrolock anything if you drive thru deep enough water. I will never have my car in 6" of water so I am not worried about it, if you do plan on driving thru more than 6" of water then this is not the intake for you and prehaps you should be posting in the chevette forums cause you should have a corvette. I did do a google and didn't find anyone who had it happen.
-Ken
-Ken
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From: Long Beach CA
No such thing as ram air? If there was no such thing as ram air we would have no jet engines. Air moving at 75 mph is called a hurricaine. My vet goes faster than 75 mph. What do you suppose is happining to the air at the inlets of the Vararam at that speed???
Last edited by carnut108; Apr 11, 2005 at 02:30 AM.
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Originally Posted by carnut108
No such thing as ram air? If there was no such thing as ram air we would have no jet engines. Air moving at 75 mph is called a hurricaine. My vet goes faster than 75 mph. What do you suppose is happining to the air at the inlets of the Vararam at that speed???
Here's the calculator you're using:
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by Scoundrl
You can Hydrolock anything if you drive thru deep enough water. I will never have my car in 6" of water so I am not worried about it, if you do plan on driving thru more than 6" of water then this is not the intake for you and prehaps you should be posting in the chevette forums cause you should have a corvette. I did do a google and didn't find anyone who had it happen.
-Ken
-Ken
And there is nothing relavent doing a search on Google. What are these?
http://experts.about.com/q/810/704099.htm
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef217bb!make=Volkswagen&model=GTI&ed_ma keindex=.ef217bb
http://www.redhummer.com/myhummer/ai...d-Snorkel.html
I found over 14 pages in my Google search pertaining to hydrolock. Maybe you're just tired?
'Ram air', 'Cold air' and you can't Hydrolock is
Bob
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Originally Posted by Korreck
Check with Redgar. He had it happen! With a Vararam. You think it's ,
take a poll. Or, you could bury your head in the sand and say it doesn't happen.
,take a poll. Or, you could bury your head in the sand and say it doesn't happen.
I could be wrong but believe Redgar hydrolocked his engine with a Vortex or something similar.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...5&postcount=33
The Vortex uses a cut radiator shroud and has caused more than a few instances of hydrolock. I have been unable to find even one instance of hydrolock using the Vararam.
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Apr 11, 2005 at 08:49 AM.
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From: Coconut Creek FL
My friend in his 01 Z06 using Vararam during the last Hurricane to hit South Florida (Driving in the rain, no puddles, rain only) had his Z Hydroloc and **** engine parts on the ground...he said the driving rain and lack of drain holes allowed water to get pulled in his intake...this car was his DD and he had no choice but to drive home in it...all I know is that he had to put an entirely new motor in the thing before he sold it... 01 Torch Red Z...South Florida...
This is what makes me want to go with a different intake...the intake sits way to low to the ground for the Tropical down pours we get here...hell, the parking lot alone where I work gets a good foot of water in an afternoon sprinkle...1 foot would be well over the sucker part of this intake...the first thing he told me when I got my 97... DON'T get the VARARAM!
my 2 cents...
This is what makes me want to go with a different intake...the intake sits way to low to the ground for the Tropical down pours we get here...hell, the parking lot alone where I work gets a good foot of water in an afternoon sprinkle...1 foot would be well over the sucker part of this intake...the first thing he told me when I got my 97... DON'T get the VARARAM!
my 2 cents...
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From: Denver co
Originally Posted by Korreck
Da-n, not another one.
Blackwing is the way to go. I think the filter on the Vararam is inadequate.
They (Vararam) claim 'ram air'. There is no such thing. They also claim 'cold air'. Again, no such thing. Look up the definition of cold. If their ads are misleading, you can't trust anything else they say.
Bob
Blackwing is the way to go. I think the filter on the Vararam is inadequate.
They (Vararam) claim 'ram air'. There is no such thing. They also claim 'cold air'. Again, no such thing. Look up the definition of cold. If their ads are misleading, you can't trust anything else they say.
Bob
when I installed the vararam I felt a huge difference and see it on the time track.
Then I installed LGM LT pro and here is the result:
356RWHP 377RWTQ.
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From: Roxbury NJ
I've got a Halltech Stinger on my car now, but I'm planning to try the Vararam sometime this year. The reported performance gains at the track are pretty impressive, so I want to try it myself. Fortunately, I have both a Corvette and a brain, so I won't be driving it during hurricanes, floods, or monsoons at excessive speed... 
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Originally Posted by corvettefrance
You don't know what you are talking about.
when I installed the vararam I felt a huge difference and see it on the time track.
Then I installed LGM LT pro and here is the result:
356RWHP 377RWTQ.
when I installed the vararam I felt a huge difference and see it on the time track.
Then I installed LGM LT pro and here is the result:
356RWHP 377RWTQ.
You're probably right at 400 rwhp in reality when you're zippin' down the track.
Racer
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From: Portland Oregon
Originally Posted by Korreck
Ok, so you have a crystal ball and you know when you'll have an incident.
And there is nothing relavent doing a search on Google. What are these?
http://experts.about.com/q/810/704099.htm
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef217bb!make=Volkswagen&model=GTI&ed_ma keindex=.ef217bb
http://www.redhummer.com/myhummer/ai...d-Snorkel.html
I found over 14 pages in my Google search pertaining to hydrolock. Maybe you're just tired?
'Ram air', 'Cold air' and you can't Hydrolock is
Bob
And there is nothing relavent doing a search on Google. What are these?
http://experts.about.com/q/810/704099.htm
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef217bb!make=Volkswagen&model=GTI&ed_ma keindex=.ef217bb
http://www.redhummer.com/myhummer/ai...d-Snorkel.html
I found over 14 pages in my Google search pertaining to hydrolock. Maybe you're just tired?
'Ram air', 'Cold air' and you can't Hydrolock is
Bob
None of these are hydrolocked because of Vararams. I have seen hydrolocked motors before, was at the ford dealership when they brought in a ranger that was submarined, but it didn't have a vararam on it. I will be more carefull driving my car in HEAVY rain becuase I know there is an increased risk with the new setup. I would take extra care when washing my car if I had a blackwing because it gets soaked when you wash the car. I suspect there is some risk of sucking water in thru that filter if you are driving thru a hurricane also, or does water coming from the top not count?
-Ken
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Originally Posted by Scoundrl
...I would take extra care when washing my car if I had a blackwing because it gets soaked when you wash the car. I suspect there is some risk of sucking water in thru that filter if you are driving thru a hurricane also, or does water coming from the top not count?
-Ken
-Ken
And, water does not come in from the top when driving, even in a hurricane, unless of course, you're driving with the hood open.