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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Go try the Exit28 link. Go ahead. They pushed the Vararam more than the other dealers you list/edit.

They got burned by standing behind an inferior product.

I feel sorry for them. Nice couple.

Don't throw a carrot out there and then not back it up. How did VARARAM burn Exit 28?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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I also think these people have false and inaccurate statements in their advertising and should not be allowed to continue with these statements.

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Which statements are you referring to, specifically?

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EB20003 -- very fair last post -- and I mean that sincerely.

Even if you do have one to many zeros in your screen name.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by till
Which statements are you referring to, specifically?

Till
From their website:

"The VR-1B ram air system is the latest unit for the standard C5 and Z06 Corvette."

"The VR-1B unit was designed to work best when above 65 Mph.'"

"The VR unit will build and maintain 100% efficiency at only 50-55 Mph."

This is just an example. Ram air without an SC unit. 100% effective at 50MPH. How do you improve on 100% by designing for 65MPH?

Look at the 'Widemouth' and their claims.

The Widemouth cold air intake is a true Giant Killer. This system was designed to match or beat the performance of other so-called ram air systems at a fraction of the cost and install time.

If the VR-1B is the greatest, why design the Widemouth and then state the same claims for it?

These are just a few examples. Do some research, draw your own conclusions and put one on if that's what you want.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
From their website:

"The VR-1B ram air system is the latest unit for the standard C5 and Z06 Corvette."
So you still claim there is no such thing as ram air? Since it is easy to measure it, and I am not the only one who did it, I am not sure that is really your point. Just to get this straight: You claim there is no such thing as ram air? Or ram air only starts at some minimum speed, and does not exist below? Or that there is no ram air effect with this specific intake?

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by EHS
EB20000000....3 -- I don't want to argue, and please don't "Korreck" me.

The Griffens were a nice couple -- but Richard put way too much stock in a single product -- and he lost.

Can we just agree that all after market intakes are about the same?

Please?
OK Bud, what do you mean by that remark? Being Korreck'ed isn't that bad. I get a tremendous amount of laughs. I joined this forum to learn, help and have fun. I'm having a ball.
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Originally Posted by EHS
EB20000000....3 -- I don't want to argue, and please don't "Korreck" me.

The Griffens were a nice couple -- but Richard put way too much stock in a single product -- and he lost.

Can we just agree that all after market intakes are about the same?

Please?
You need to Korrecked. You have made it clear you dislike the VARARAM, but to state that it's VARARAM's fault that Exit 28 went out of business is just plain dumb. Is there any proof to back up your claim? Richard sold many other products..... and since he was smart enough to start the business, I'll guess he was smart enough not to place all his eggs in one basket..... it's a $300 intake for goodness sake.

The amount of that gets spread around this forum is disgusting, it proves something though. You don't need any common sense to own a nice car.
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Originally Posted by Korreck
OK Bud, what do you mean by that remark? I joined this forum to learn, help and have fun.
Still waiting for you to make a usefull contribution.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
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This message is hidden because 90 droptop is on your ignore list.

I can't hear you.
Hey fool, if I'm on your ignore list, how do you know I posted about you?????? Nice try ********, busted again.

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
OK Bud, what do you mean by that remark? Being Korreck'ed isn't that bad. I get a tremendous amount of laughs. I joined this forum to learn, help and have fun. I'm having a ball.
Since you didn't bring this up for the first time, which statement is it specifically that you think is untrue?

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
Check with Redgar. He had it happen! With a Vararam. You think it's ,
take a poll. Or, you could bury your head in the sand and say it doesn't happen.

Edgar had the Breathless rammer (none are true "Ram Air"), happened in a deep puddle at Sunshine...had to trailer back to NJ.

All will show great performance increases, we saw better w/the Vararam, but the Blackwing is probably the safest & best filter system.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
Check with Redgar. He had it happen! With a Vararam. You think it's ,
take a poll. Or, you could bury your head in the sand and say it doesn't happen.

Originally Posted by TLewis4095
Edgar had the Breathless rammer (none are true "Ram Air"), happened in a deep puddle at Sunshine...had to trailer back to NJ.

All will show great performance increases, we saw better w/the Vararam, but the Blackwing is probably the safest & best filter system.

Korreck, once again has shown he knows how to talk out his azz, but thats about it. More bad advice....... thanks for the contribution Korreck.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Korreck is correct on none of the intakes being true "Ram Air", and not true "Cold Air".

I was with Edgar when he hydrolocked, it was more like a 10" deep pot hole leaving the track....torrential downpour.

We have hydrolocked Emily's Lexus ES300 in an intersection w/stock very high intake box. (Insurance covered it all).

Any cool air that is less restrictive from fresh air should improve performance on most any stock car.

We put app 80k miles on the Breathless Rammer in FLA w/many down-pours but VERY careful of puddles w/no problems, and app 30k on the Vararam w/no problems. I was worried during some of the Hurricanes last season...drove through torrential rain and some shallow puddles w/no probs but Hydrolock is a VERY real risk...especially from ANY of the bottom feeders.

Again, the Halltech, Blackwing, Vararam, all will show good gains, and we found the best performance w/the Vararam. The filter on the Vararam is the least protective of all in my opinion as far as engine protection, but we are racing this car 2-3 times a week and we saw the best performance w/the Vararam....but only 2-4 hundreths in the 1/4 (with all factors considered...DA, Temps, Fuel load, Track prep, etc.).

We have the Breathless unit on the Pewter 2000 coupe beast and am happy w/it.

In closing, I have GREAT respect for Korreck's engineering knowledge....we just agree to slightly different opinions on a few rare subjects, which is human nature And I respect most of the other knowledgable poster's on here as well. I admire and respect the vast majority of tuner's as well since many have strength's in area's some other's don't, but over-all the supporting tuners on this forum are great!

Go race, drive your vette, and be safe while having fun!!!!!

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by till
Since you didn't bring this up for the first time, which statement is it specifically that you think is untrue?

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I answered you once. Did you read and not understand? Here's the last line:

"Do some research, draw your own conclusions and put one on if that's what you want."

Your opinion is that it's good. I didn't ask you to justify that. My opinion is it's a piece of crap. Take two pills and go to bed.
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So between Korreck and idot boy (read as EHS) we are to believe that the factory Manifolds are "good enough" and "all intakes are equal" That's good news. Now how about you take a C5 with a zip tie mod Intake and factory manifolds with no other mods and I'll take a C5 with Vararm and LG headers as the only mods and we run 'em down the track for oh say $500.

I'm game. I'm sure we can make this happen..

So who's gonna step up, EHS......Korreck.....EHS.....Korreck.... ..I'll be happy to let any third party hold the money. Hell I'll travel to make this happen.

Come on step up to the plate.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TLewis4095
Korreck is correct on none of the intakes being true "Ram Air", and not true "Cold Air".

I was with Edgar when he hydrolocked, it was more like a 10" deep pot hole leaving the track....torrential downpour.

We have hydrolocked Emily's Lexus ES300 in an intersection w/stock very high intake box. (Insurance covered it all).

Any cool air that is less restrictive from fresh air should improve performance on most any stock car.

We put app 80k miles on the Breathless Rammer in FLA w/many down-pours but VERY careful of puddles w/no problems, and app 30k on the Vararam w/no problems. I was worried during some of the Hurricanes last season...drove through torrential rain and some shallow puddles w/no probs but Hydrolock is a VERY real risk...especially from ANY of the bottom feeders.

Again, the Halltech, Blackwing, Vararam, all will show good gains, and we found the best performance w/the Vararam. The filter on the Vararam is the least protective of all in my opinion as far as engine protection, but we are racing this car 2-3 times a week and we saw the best performance w/the Vararam....but only 2-4 hundreths in the 1/4 (with all factors considered...DA, Temps, Fuel load, Track prep, etc.).

We have the Breathless unit on the Pewter 2000 coupe beast and am happy w/it.

In closing, I have GREAT respect for Korreck's engineering knowledge....we just agree to slightly different opinions on a few rare subjects, which is human nature And I respect most of the other knowledgable poster's on here as well. I admire and respect the vast majority of tuner's as well since many have strength's in area's some other's don't, but over-all the supporting tuners on this forum are great!

Go race, drive your vette, and be safe while having fun!!!!!
And I might add we don't argue and get pizzed because of those differences.

Thank you Tracy for your kind remarks. Hope to see you at Moroso.

Bob

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaman
So between Korreck and idot boy (read as EHS) we are to believe that the factory Manifolds are "good enough" and "all intakes are equal" That's good news. Now how about you take a C5 with a zip tie mod Intake and factory manifolds with no other mods and I'll take a C5 with Vararm and LG headers as the only mods and we run 'em down the track for oh say $500.

I'm game. I'm sure we can make this happen..

So who's gonna step up, EHS......Korreck.....EHS.....Korreck.... ..I'll be happy to let any third party hold the money. Hell I'll travel to make this happen.

Come on step up to the plate.
They won't do ****. They already spouted off about offering up their paychecks for a Blackwing VS. VARARAM. When I called them on it, they ran away like the red faced little school boys. Nothing but hot air and ignorant .
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