It will probably make you a little quicker. But it has nothing to do with traction control.

 

Yes.

 

I think I know what your talking about! My 04 Coupe has freaked out a couple of times with the TC turned completely off.

TC-off and I go to due a burnout and the car bogs and won't let me spin the tires like it's still has TC?

It did it probablly 3 times in a row one day and it started to **** me off.(Couldn't do the 3 foot shuffle)

Now with the updated tuning (Not stock) it hasn't done it?

Weird..... Maybe it was going in to abuse mode like listed above?

Brandin
04 Magnacharged Coupe

 

Don't know if this will work for you. But I have a 2000 vette with active handling and TC, and I bought a device from Lap Trax, that hooked into the PCM and you can program it to have whatever controls you want on or off, at every start up. I did this to not have TC on because of the A&A S/C install. It works great, and I don't have to set or push any buttons-does it automatically.
Hope this helps,
Robo

 

The post originator owns a year 2000. And this was a complaint of many with these first gen cars... that TC didn't get completely disabled even though the Competitive Driving mode was selected.

And this was what led to the major rewrite of the 2nd gen software for C5 model year 2001; it made TC and AH even less intrusive than before.

So the complaint made by the thread originator wouldn't surprise me much if he had AH; because it's a common one with the 1998 thru 2000.

But the post originators C5 doesn't have AH... so now I'm really

 

I gotta cry on that one.....
I have 2 00's & a 97' that have that issue ocassionally at the strip were they are tryed all the time. 2 are LS1 edited by the best to eliminate abuse/TM along with a PLII........yeh but it works great
These cars are too smart some times
Give it a good gas pedal hit 1st does it UNLESS the car starts to walk sideways during the burn out.......
Short of turning off TC by programing( tough to do as it effects other systems) you can still have it come up

 

I agree 100%. If it's shut off it's off. Doesn't matter if you hit the brakes or have your foot on the brake when you set it. Doesn't matter if you have TM or not.

Trooper, you got a problem!

 

What does the car walking sideways during the burn out indicate?

 

 

Walking just means during a BO that one tire is getting traction....the car pulls to that side when you stay in it
The PCM sees it as the car loosing traction in a corner and tries to slow it down.......thus TC/ABS comes on!
The tech manuals have some good systematic explenations,but.......I have found many on the road Lots more fun than the book but true.
Bob, stick to corn flakes........

 

Steve, I gotta call on this one. You guys are not reading what he wrote. After several trys it works.

All of us will get a little sideways at the strip. Caused by one tire being dryer than the other one and like you said it gets more traction. My TC has NEVER come back on.

I expect to see you in Pa on the 30th. I'll give you some driving lessons free.

 

I just edited my earlier post. The info I remembered was about 1st gen C5's with A.H.

 

Feel lucky then.................or you haven't been at a 45 deg angle in the BO box
Can't read..........why are you picking on Julie? She's not in this thread...........YET
After over 200 official launches in a 1st gen C5 I have had it happen MORE than a dozen times w/o AH..........Tech II & other tools find nada a problemo! Nothing mechanical either.
Remember, the DIC reads "ABS active" cause 1 tire is spining more than the other.
Each car is a little more picky on this but it's all how you apply the brake to BO whether you want to hear it or not. Been there done that and have the map for sale
I hear ya on the 30th ya flake........or chip.........what are you this week

 

Now you say you're going to allow her to post.

You're right, I've never been past 45 deg. It''s called throttle control. I have never heard of Troopers problem with TC and I notice you keep referring to Gen 1, which he doesn't have. I still say he has a problem but I hope you're right.

I almost forgot. I'm a chip. Dad's the block.

 

If I do, apparently I'm far from the only person with the same one. I'm beginning to believe the confusion arises from differences in programming between model years and this phenomenon seems to occur only in 2000 and older cars. I'd never make so certain a statement as "If your TC is activating with it turned off, something is wrong with your car" unless I'd personally written the PCM programming for that model year.

 

When I look back on things, I believe the difference between working and not working is this.

When I turn the TC off and try to ease into the burnout, that's when I run into trouble and the TC or whatever kicks in not allowing me to do the burnout. If I stab the throttle hard, it works every time. I don't know why this is, but I'm starting to believe it's a "problem" inherent to the model year and not something specific to the car.

 

Ok I will restate myself.

Unless it says this in your owners manual then you car is broke.


There how is that.

 

I'm not sure, but I don't quite think everything we need to know about our cars can be found in the owner's manual.

 

That's better Gary. A problem can be defined as something that's not working correctly. In other words, broke. At least after giving it some thought he knows how to get around the problem.

Trooper, if you don't have a tuner close by you can get a spare PCM and have it completely reprogrammed. I think the core charge is around $200 for the PCM.

Check with Steve (All Throttle blah blah blah) and see if that would fix it.

 

XTrooper I did not state my opinion to start a pissing contest. I think maybe some people think I said this because I don't believe you, that this is happening with your car.

100% not true, I believe this is definitely causing you a problem.

I just wanted you to know that if your TC is operating properly, once you turn it off, it will not activate unless you either turn the car off and restart, in which case it goes to the default, on, position, or you push the button again and turn TC on.

Some people that post on here are confused about how the system works. I was just trying to state it in simple terms. Maybe this is a glitch in some model years, I was not aware of that problem. But it still is a malfunction, the system is not supposed to operate in that manner.

So if someone disagrees with this position, if you think the system is designed to operate by cycling on and off on it's own, please just post something from the owners manual, that states TC is active when the button is turned off, or that it can cycle on its own depending on ABS function.

Abuse Mode, and Torque Management are not Traction Control. Different animals entirely. It would be helpful to you to try to identify which one of these programming fuctions is actually causing your problem at the track. That way you could attack the problem with a more focused approach. Good luck.