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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Default Goodyear's are great

Have had the Goodyear's on my C5 this spring-autumn and they are a fantastic tire. I've also bought Toyo T1-R Proxes and BFGoodrich KDW2's and find that the Goodyear tires are superior in traction, wet, and tire noise.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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It is interesting that they used tread wear as a characteristic for this test. It is difficult to do this for two reasons.
One, they never wore any tires out, so they didn't come up with any data on their own.
Two, they are relying on nonfactual information for the tread wear results. UTQG is of interest to consumers but is not consistant between manufactures. So you could look at a Dunlap and a Yokohama with treadwear ratings of 300 and a Bridgestone with a UTQG rating of 260 might last 10k miles longer.

I was waiting for the ALMS card.

Is there a way to post a picture? What tires do you think the US Military uses? Hmmm other than the Humvee, I can assure you it is not Goodyear. And the Canadian Army (insert joke / jokes here) are 100% Michelin (yes, they have more than 2 people in their army).

also, Continental... German!

Not saying that GY doesn't make a good tire.

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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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I agree that you can't compare tread wear ratings between manufacturers, just among manufacturers, but I CAN tell you that my GS D3s do NOT wear quickly for the amount of "stick" they exhibit on the road, wet or dry. It wouldn't be surprising to me if my tires last 30,000 miles - that's fantastic for any super-high performance tires.
I do seek out good deals and when I considered performance and cost (in that order), the GSD3s are incredibly tough to beat, especially if performance in both wet and dry conditions is high up on your list. Besides, it's nice to know that an American company is on top, just as the Corvette normally is when compared to other sports cars (especially German ones!).
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Goodyear GS-D3's

Oh yes, I was at the USGP in Indy......

If you read any of the web sites or magazines dedicated to F1 the answer is ....it was all politics. The only team that had any problems with Michelin tires was Toyota. They had failures at other tracks. It was all due to the aggressive set-up they used. But Michelin paniced.
They made a bad call and ended up paying for it.
Michelin make good tires. I have owned many sets, including the pilot sports on my SRX. BUT the GoodYear GS-D3's are the best tires I have owned.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Default Michelin, quieter and longer lasting

I got the p-zero and am very pleased with the performance.



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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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I just replaced the F1SC's on my Z06 with Pilot Sport 2's and I'm very happy with them. The handling has been sharpened up, although I did get an alignment at the same time, but it wasn't far off from factory specs, so I think most of the change was due to the PS2's.

The GY's are also good tires, as evidenced by the tire test, and at Tire Rack they are also among the most highly rated tires. But if you're interested in getting PS2's, I bought them at Discount Tire and they were within $50 of Tire Rack when I factored in the free mounting and balancing at Discount vs having to pay for the drop shipped PS2's from TireRack and paying $20/tire for mounting and balancing.

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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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I just replaced my GY stock run flats (summer tires) with Mitchlin all season run flats and I love the new tires especially in snow. There's no comparison the GY EMTs were terrible in snow.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Frankly, I have installed numerous tire brands and models on all my vehicles, from expensive exotic model tire applications, to low cost consumer minded value brands. And, the brands and models that I have installed is ever dependent upon the type of vehicle, purpose, driving needs and goals for that specific tire and wheel application.

Moreover, in my experience (and with best performance in mind for a daily driver, and, not a dedicated track car), I continue to prefer Goodyears GS D3's; Michelin Pilot Sports PS2's; Pirelli P-Zero Rosso Assimetrico's, and, Nitto's. Period. And, for those of you who are informed, you can easily surmize by the line up presented above that I do demand not only performance, dry, and/or, wet, BUT, I also require sizing availability. And, this specific tire (available wide ranges in tire sizing) feature is paramount!

Pirelli and Michelin still provide the best and widest sizing base above all others. No one else makes 355/25-19 to fit my 19X13 inch wheels, BUT, Pirelli. Period. And, 355mm tires need an 13 inch wide wheel for appropriate fitment. Now, Goodyear, as well as, other manufacturers, are finally constructing more sizes as we speak. More sizes means more applicability to a wider range and reach of consumers, which means more sales.

Furthermore, like Pirelli and Goodyear, Michelin continues to step up to the plate with their exceptional R&D to further propel them onto the veritable cutting edge of tire technology. In fact, Michelin is "the" slated original equipment tire for the new and outrageous 1000+ hp Bugatti Veyron which has the new 365mm Michelins mounted onto 14 inch wide wheels!!!

Hence, tire technology IS moving forward. Today, you will find much safer tires, better tire construction and availability than ever before in the history of the Tire and Rubber Products industry since the 1880's, be the tire a low cost value, or, an expensive performance model. So, do not be afraid to purchase a Goodyear, Pirelli, Michelin, Nitto, Falken, etc. Just be sure that you are considering what tire (and sizing availability) will most appropriately suit the important and specific needs and purposes that you have in mind. Merry Christmas.
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