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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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My 2000 is driven mainly on the track. I've been told upgrading to the C5 Z06 calipers will improve braking (I use the CarboTech pads). Has anyone made the switch and feel it's worth it? I'm not interested in looks or in spending $K's. This old beater turned a 1:48 at Laguna Seca last Friday and I think better brakes will get me closer to 1:45.
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I'm no expert on brakes, but I heard the C6 Z06's are awesome (obviously), but the downfall is that the pads are $400 a set, and they usually last for one track day, of course if driving hard enough!!!
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Originally Posted by steve harrington
My 2000 is driven mainly on the track. I've been told upgrading to the C5 Z06 calipers will improve braking (I use the CarboTech pads). Has anyone made the switch and feel it's worth it? I'm not interested in looks or in spending $K's. This old beater turned a 1:48 at Laguna Seca last Friday and I think better brakes will get me closer to 1:45.

C5 and C5 Z06 are the same except for the paint. Get some Wilwoods for the front from LGM and your done. Better than the new 06Z calipers.
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C5 and C5 Z06 are the same except for the paint. Get some Wilwoods for the front from LGM and your done. Better than the new 06Z calipers.
Hi John,
Thanks for your suggestion. I was a Laguna again yesterday and a friend "cooked" his new OEM calipers in his C5. You mentioned Wilwoods. What about Brembo, Precision or StopTech. There are a lot to choose from. I want to get it right the first time. (Small money tree out back). - Steve
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I'm no expert on brakes, but I heard the C6 Z06's are awesome (obviously), but the downfall is that the pads are $400 a set, and they usually last for one track day, of course if driving hard enough!!!
No from personal experience they are JUST OK. I like the C5/6 PBR caliper better.

The calipers are the same but the do stretch with time. Changing out to new c5 calipers every two years at $180 ea is nothing, plus the new calipers brakets at $100.

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I'm no expert on brakes, but I heard the C6 Z06's are awesome (obviously), but the downfall is that the pads are $400 a set, and they usually last for one track day, of course if driving hard enough!!!
For that money I would go with Baer or Brembo.
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Originally Posted by steve harrington
Hi John,
Thanks for your suggestion. I was a Laguna again yesterday and a friend "cooked" his new OEM calipers in his C5. You mentioned Wilwoods. What about Brembo, Precision or StopTech. There are a lot to choose from. I want to get it right the first time. (Small money tree out back). - Steve
Brembo are not great unless you are spending 8-10 large on racing brembos. Bear calipers are PBRs( stock corvette caliper) and Alcon's just rebraned - StopTech are one of the finest calipers, Wilwoods are great too.

APRacing ( now owned by PBR ) and Alcon are great reacing brakes. Just need a BIG BIG WALET.

When some one cooks the stock corvette brake it seems the fist thing they want to do is put on a BBK.

How about a few other options that will work:

1- Learn a different braking style, break less and carry more moenteum. Turn of that darn AH as it WILL eat your rear brake pads up.
2- cooling, put on those DRM cooling ducts.
3- Castrol SRF brake fluid, or at least Motul or Superblue and BLEED the brakes before each day at the track.
4- Racing pads, not combo pads, there are really no racing AND street pads, it is racing OR street PERIOD.
5- Brakes only work when there is suffcient rubber on the road. Street tires wont stop as fast as slicks even the same width.
6- seasoned rotors. Ideally if we could get the 1.2" rotors with the PBR caliper that would be great, but they dont fit.


PPL complain about having to bleed brakes, I just find that quite time to slowly inspect my car, mm by mm to assure my saftey on the track.
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Originally Posted by steve harrington
Hi John,
Thanks for your suggestion. I was a Laguna again yesterday and a friend "cooked" his new OEM calipers in his C5. You mentioned Wilwoods. What about Brembo, Precision or StopTech. There are a lot to choose from. I want to get it right the first time. (Small money tree out back). - Steve
Wilwoods best bang for the buck for 1500. Pads are common and cheap. Easy to replace pads and the calipers are light. Get them from LGM as his kit has the therm-lock piston for better insulating of the fluid. The pads are also thicker than the regular Wilwood kit. I just bought some for the rear also which are 4 piston. I run Stoptech two piece rotors also or you can use NAPA. The pads last me near 1500 HARD track miles. I buned the anodizing off them but the still worked great. Instead of black they are now copper colored. Stock calipers and race pads would not last me 500 miles. The stack calipers are fine till they get hot and flex or develop pad taper which gives you a long pedal. Wilwoods feel the same in the beginning as the end of a session. SRF brake fluid is worth every penny. You can also get spacers/heat shields to slip in the calipers cheap. This keeps the pistons in the caliper and cooler and keeps them in the bore deeper to prevent the pistons from cocking in the bore. They work great. You also need the ducting to keep them cool no matter what caliper you run.


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