HELP...new battery differant problem
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Cruising
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HELP...new battery differant problem
got up this morning and car was dead. read lots of posts and decided it needed a new battery. the 2002 AC Delco had died. fine. Got the red top even though it gets mixed reviews here but I live out in the mountains and the autozone didn't have much to choose from.
Battery in car drives home. I decide to double check a few hours later and now it won't start again. This time the dash comes to life and when I try to turn it over it just goes click, click, clickhttp://forums.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/eek6.gif
what am I to do now?
Battery in car drives home. I decide to double check a few hours later and now it won't start again. This time the dash comes to life and when I try to turn it over it just goes click, click, clickhttp://forums.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/eek6.gif
what am I to do now?
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Bummer. The battery doesn't need to drain too much for it not to turn the engine over. I think somewhere around 11.1v or less is bad territory.
It sounds like you have an electrical drain somewhere that is still active when the ignition is turned off. Now comes the fun part: an electrical bug hunt. Maybe you can narrow it down to a particular fuse and then check all the wiring on that system?
It sounds like you have an electrical drain somewhere that is still active when the ignition is turned off. Now comes the fun part: an electrical bug hunt. Maybe you can narrow it down to a particular fuse and then check all the wiring on that system?
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let me say that when I got the battery from the store it was covered with dust and we put it in, started up the car, let it run for 1-2 minutes turned it off and...the car wouldn't start.
jumped it.
let it run for 5 minutes turned it off... started right up.
I am hoping it isn't an alternator. I thought I read something about a fuse (maybe #43) or something today that could cause problems?
jumped it.
let it run for 5 minutes turned it off... started right up.
I am hoping it isn't an alternator. I thought I read something about a fuse (maybe #43) or something today that could cause problems?
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I'd put a battery charger on it, over night, if you have one. Then if it isn't in good shape, take it back. One thing to keep in mind, just because you got a new battery doesn't mean you got a good one.
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Get the battery charged with a commercial high-output charger and then have a load test done on the battery. If it won't hold voltage, then chances are there is an internal short.
A new battery with a full charge can sit on a shelf for 6-8 months and still be easily capable of starting a car and showing 12.1 - 12.4v with the engine off. Anything below 11.5v or so indicates a need for a charge. If the charge doesn't hold, you will see a voltage drop very soon after the charge cycle.
The alternator is not designed to charge a battery. Driving around after jump-starting is placing an excessive load on the alternator and can burn it out. A voltage reading of 13.2 with the engine running is pretty low even with a good fully charged battery; voltage should be 13.8 to 14.1/14.2
A new battery with a full charge can sit on a shelf for 6-8 months and still be easily capable of starting a car and showing 12.1 - 12.4v with the engine off. Anything below 11.5v or so indicates a need for a charge. If the charge doesn't hold, you will see a voltage drop very soon after the charge cycle.
The alternator is not designed to charge a battery. Driving around after jump-starting is placing an excessive load on the alternator and can burn it out. A voltage reading of 13.2 with the engine running is pretty low even with a good fully charged battery; voltage should be 13.8 to 14.1/14.2
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
Get the battery charged with a commercial high-output charger and then have a load test done on the battery. If it won't hold voltage, then chances are there is an internal short.
A new battery with a full charge can sit on a shelf for 6-8 months and still be easily capable of starting a car and showing 12.1 - 12.4v with the engine off. Anything below 11.5v or so indicates a need for a charge. If the charge doesn't hold, you will see a voltage drop very soon after the charge cycle.
The alternator is not designed to charge a battery. Driving around after jump-starting is placing an excessive load on the alternator and can burn it out. A voltage reading of 13.2 with the engine running is pretty low even with a good fully charged battery; voltage should be 13.8 to 14.1/14.2
A new battery with a full charge can sit on a shelf for 6-8 months and still be easily capable of starting a car and showing 12.1 - 12.4v with the engine off. Anything below 11.5v or so indicates a need for a charge. If the charge doesn't hold, you will see a voltage drop very soon after the charge cycle.
The alternator is not designed to charge a battery. Driving around after jump-starting is placing an excessive load on the alternator and can burn it out. A voltage reading of 13.2 with the engine running is pretty low even with a good fully charged battery; voltage should be 13.8 to 14.1/14.2
What he said. Autozone can do the load test and their machine will give the defect code. if any. I think that's part of their routine before they'll do an exchange. Good luck.Cheers
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The AutoZone tester only tests the battery off the car and does not give a true indication of the battery's ability to handle high amerage loads and show if alternator output is actually being taken by the battery.
Find a reputable repair facility and have them do the load test. They may do a battery charge first if overall battery voltage is not at least 12v. The load test is typically done with the engine running.
Find a reputable repair facility and have them do the load test. They may do a battery charge first if overall battery voltage is not at least 12v. The load test is typically done with the engine running.
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If you don't have the proper high current charger to properly charge that battery, it will not get a good full charge. I got a defective RED TOP when I purchased my new battery. Once they swapped it out, its been good ever since (2+ years). You might just need a good charge or you could have a bad battery.
I have a gel battery in my BMW K1200 RS. When i pulled it out of storage it was reading 11.4 VDC. I charged it with a standard charger and it never got above 11.9VDC after it had set on a trickle charge all night>>
Figured I was in for ANOTHER new battery!!!
I put it on a full charge for 6 hours and it went up to 12.1 VDC. After i got the bike back on the road, the bike alternator properly charged it up to 13.4 under no load
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I have a gel battery in my BMW K1200 RS. When i pulled it out of storage it was reading 11.4 VDC. I charged it with a standard charger and it never got above 11.9VDC after it had set on a trickle charge all night>>
Figured I was in for ANOTHER new battery!!!I put it on a full charge for 6 hours and it went up to 12.1 VDC. After i got the bike back on the road, the bike alternator properly charged it up to 13.4 under no load
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Originally Posted by quickstix02
let me say that when I got the battery from the store it was covered with dust and we put it in, started up the car, let it run for 1-2 minutes turned it off and...the car wouldn't start.
Again, I don't know what damage (if any) can happen to these unsold batteries over time; but it seems the cost of them stop many from buying. So I imagine they can sit on the shelf for quite a long time before being sold.
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thanks everyone. this site is full of great info and great peeps.http://forums.corvetteforum.com/imag...s/thumbsup.gif
I don't know what effect this will have but I noticed that I had my interior lights turned. the dimmer switch I was messing with got turned ALL the way to the right. I finally noticed it as it got darker last night and I was still fooling and praying the car would start.
This morning a full 14.3 volts, starts right up.
Everything looks good, but I am going to find a place to do the voltage test on the battery for good measure.http://forums.corvetteforum.com/imag...lies/seeya.gif
save the wave
I don't know what effect this will have but I noticed that I had my interior lights turned. the dimmer switch I was messing with got turned ALL the way to the right. I finally noticed it as it got darker last night and I was still fooling and praying the car would start.
This morning a full 14.3 volts, starts right up.
Everything looks good, but I am going to find a place to do the voltage test on the battery for good measure.http://forums.corvetteforum.com/imag...lies/seeya.gif
save the wave
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
The AutoZone tester only tests the battery off the car and does not give a true indication of the battery's ability to handle high amerage loads and show if alternator output is actually being taken by the battery.
Find a reputable repair facility and have them do the load test. They may do a battery charge first if overall battery voltage is not at least 12v. The load test is typically done with the engine running.
Find a reputable repair facility and have them do the load test. They may do a battery charge first if overall battery voltage is not at least 12v. The load test is typically done with the engine running.
Cheers
Last edited by PierEagle; May 2, 2006 at 12:30 AM.
