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They will be noisy with stock length rockers, the base circle of the cam is smaller than stock. Best bet is to measure, but you likely want longer pushrods based on the radius difference between the stock and new cam base circles. The use of stock pushrod is why everyone thinks its normal for a cam to be noisy.
They will be noisy with stock length rockers, the base circle of the cam is smaller than stock. Best bet is to measure, but you likely want longer pushrods based on the radius difference between the stock and new cam base circles. The use of stock pushrod is why everyone thinks its normal for a cam to be noisy.
How do you measure and decide how much longer you need?
How do you measure and decide how much longer you need?
You need an adjustable length pushrod checker and a lifter that has been converted to a noncollapsable lifter. You slap some permanent ink on the valve stem face, or valve stem cap, assemble the valvetrain for that cylinder, and rotate the motor by hand a couple of revolutions. Then take off the rockerarm and look at the sweep pattern. You want the narrowest sweep pattern that is in the center of the valvestem or lash cap (less than .080" is acceptable). One note, It is better to have a much narrower sweep pattern slightly offcenter, than a sweep pattern that is centered but larger than .080". It is often a tedious practice, but well worth the effort! No two engines are exactly alike and it's the little things that start to add up and make one combination squeeze more power out than another engine with the same parts, but corners cut here and there. James
Pushrod length won't alter the wipe pattern, shimming the rocker base will. To measure the pushrod length, you need an adjustable pushrod. There are several pushrod measurements, but the one that is used to determine length is "gauge length". Gauge length is measured from a point where the ball on the end is 0.140" in diameter. The Comp adjustable pushrod will have a mark on it such that every turn is an increase of 0.050" in pushrod length. You set the cam so that the lifter of cylinder one is on the cam base circle, then install the adjustable pushrod so it is slightly short (you can close it down two turns from your stock length pushrod). Install the pushrod and rocker, torque the rocker to around 10 lb-ft (you don't need to go to the full 22 lb-ft, you are only making sure the rocker is seated). Unscrew the adjustable pushrod until it closes out any clearance (no click click if you move it up and down). Remove the rocker, find out how long the pushrod now is. For stock lifters, you need 0.080" to 0.120" of preload. I think you will find you need 7.425" pushrods. By the way, Comp actually makes LS1 pushrods in 0.025" increments for the LS1 near the stock length for this purpose.
increase the stock pushrod by 1/2 of the base circle difference.
If all other parts are stock and the base circle on the new cam is smaller.
7.425 most likely
increase the stock pushrod by 1/2 of the base circle difference.
If all other parts are stock and the base circle on the new cam is smaller.
7.425 most likely
I'm thinking I will go with that. Does comp cams have the size like that or what king do you reccommend?
I'm thinking I will go with that. Does comp cams have the size like that or what king do you reccommend?
In my previous post, I stated that Comp makes pushrods in 0.025" increments around the stock length and that 7.425 would likely be the right one, but you need to measure, at a minimum the cam base circle.
In my previous post, I stated that Comp makes pushrods in 0.025" increments around the stock length and that 7.425 would likely be the right one, but you need to measure, at a minimum the cam base circle.
Go with 7.425's.. May not be perfect BUT it's better than what you'll get with too short stockers and you get a PR upgrade (hardened) in the process.