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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
Howard, to remove the Honker / air filter for cleaning..

1. unscrew and remove all 4 fasteners on the air filter frame.
2. loosen (not necessary to remove) the band clamp holding the oval rubber bridge to the filter housing.
3. loosen (not necessary to remove) the clamp holding the rubber coupler to the throttle body.
4. unhook the connector for the MAF and if 97-2000 the air temp sensor.
5. pull back and lift up on the rubber coupler on the throttle body end.
6. you can now slide the whole assembly back and up, un-hooking the tabs on the front of the air filter frame.
7. pull the filter out, clean, dry, re-oil, installation is reverse of removal (well, almost; after slipping the coupler back onto the throttle body and seating everything, I re-install the 4 filter frame screws, make my way back tightening the clamps).
Thanks Dan

As I had my Honker installed when the 402 was put in I never got to see how it went together........these look like perfect intructions !!!!


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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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Nice intake. Does relocating the MAF closer to the TB make any difference? It would seem the MAF would be very close to the IAT sensor.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Nice intake. Does relocating the MAF closer to the TB make any difference? It would seem the MAF would be very close to the IAT sensor.
Myself (and others) have noticed an immediate improvement in throttle response, of the type and quality I thought I'd need to install an aluminum flywheel to obtain!
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Todd157k
Nice intake. Does relocating the MAF closer to the TB make any difference? It would seem the MAF would be very close to the IAT sensor.
I am sure it probably does. Callaway did this first, then the C6 comes out and GM did it, too. Interesting. I have had my Honker in long enough now that I have had to clean it recently. Very easy to remove and reinstall the filter. It took longer to wash the filter. Another point is that my car is a semi-daily driver. I have driven in some serious rain with no problems, especially once on a long distance trip.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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I drove home through the Pocono's from Carlisle and it poured all the way, no problems with the Honker here.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
Myself (and others) have noticed an immediate improvement in throttle response, of the type and quality I thought I'd need to install an aluminum flywheel to obtain!
Originally Posted by striper
I am sure it probably does. Callaway did this first, then the C6 comes out and GM did it, too. Interesting. I have had my Honker in long enough now that I have had to clean it recently. Very easy to remove and reinstall the filter. It took longer to wash the filter. Another point is that my car is a semi-daily driver. I have driven in some serious rain with no problems, especially once on a long distance trip.
Has anyone tried this on a different intake system? Studying the pictures, I don't even see the IAT. Is it mounted from underneath?
Sounds like something I'd like to try out.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd157k
Has anyone tried this on a different intake system? Studying the pictures, I don't even see the IAT. Is it mounted from underneath?
Sounds like something I'd like to try out.
On 97~2000's it mounts in the rubber coupling between the throttle body and the MAF.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark-44
My '97 A4 with the 2.73 gear improved to 13.337 @ 105.66 after I installed the Callaway Honker. Before the install the time was 13.649 @ 103.76.

Mark
That is a nice gain, 3 tenths and almost 2 MPH better! Were these run under more or less the same conditions because you know that in itself could make a big difference.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MYCoupe
That is a nice gain, 3 tenths and almost 2 MPH better! Were these run under more or less the same conditions because you know that in itself could make a big difference.
Same conditions...and a big improvement over the zip-tied K&N with no cover.

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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmvette
the way i looked at it when deciding on the intakes was that if the honker makes 99.5% of the power of the vararam, but has 100x more fit and finish quality, why choose something that makes a smidge more power but fits like junk?
Not only that but I also think it may be quite a bit safer around water.
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
I drove home through the Pocono's from Carlisle and it poured all the way, no problems with the Honker here.

The concern is not so much the rain as it is standing water where the rain doesn't drain very well.
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Homer4598
The concern is not so much the rain as it is standing water where the rain doesn't drain very well.
Just don't drive through more than 6 inches of water.
Buy a jeep for that!
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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I installed the Callaway Honker on my car yesterday, replacing a Blackwing.

The total install time consumed just under 4 hours and was mostly just as the instructions said, with exception of the Blackwing flexing (as in altering - pushing down) the fan shield cutout position. I had to R&R and measure the shield twice to get things just right. Beware if you are upgrading from a Blackwing or your hole will be about 1.5 inches too low!

The Honker system is well built, the parts are all of high quality and the kit is very well engineered.

I drove it about 25 miles today for the computer to "learn" the changes, and feel a noticable improvement in off idle throttle response, and better low RPM responsiveness. Also noticed better power at highway speeds, particularly over 60 mph where the "Ram Effect" appears to help push air into the engine....the car really moves at higher speeds. No codes or drivability issues encountered.

My car ran pretty strong before, and the improvements are not earth shattering, but the difference is apparent from idle to Redline, and WOT runs are smoother throughout the powerband. The measured gains in the Vette Mag article sound quite realistic...probably 1 - 2 tenths in the Qtr. mile. I also suspect that the gains will be better on a hot day, temps today were in the low 60's where the Blackwing did much better than on hot Summer days due to cooler air.

The Honker is a very good system, and the upgrade was well worth the effort. The price is a little high, but you do get what you pay for compared to the other CAI choices, my expectations were met 100%.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Darion
. The worse part of the install, and most time consuming, was getting the radiator shield out and reinstalled, what a PITA.

This may be too little too late, but most guys don't remove the rad shield. Mark off the cut, then just reach in with a rotozip and viola your good to go.

Don't forget to paste the CARB sticker on your fender even if smog isn't an issue there, you may someday sell the car.




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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 3cRider
I'm trying to decide between the Honker and the VaraRam but wish someone would do back to back comparos of them to see which nets better dyno and track numbers.

Hundreds, no thousands, of threads here on this. I will tell you this much only the honker is smog legal and none really provide realistic hp gains; however, you will most likely feel a stronger/consistant pull in higher rpm's.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SultansDiamond

Don't forget to paste the CARB sticker on your fender even if smog isn't an issue there, you may someday sell the car.
Mine came in very handy. I had to skim coat the wheel housing due to a small crack and I taped off and skimmed the size of the Callaway sticker. Once it hardened, I put the sticker over the skim and now you can see it
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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Darion,
PM on the sale of your stinger... will it fit a 2001? What color is it? of course, any pics
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Installed my Honker about a few weeks ago, but mis-cut the hole a little too low, so the bellows doesn't line up perfect. I'll try again with a new shroud this weekend. Outside of that, the fit & finish is good, looks factory. Anybody install a screen to protect the filter now that it's a bottom feeder ?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by barrynk
Installed my Honker about a few weeks ago, but mis-cut the hole a little too low, so the bellows doesn't line up perfect. I'll try again with a new shroud this weekend. Outside of that, the fit & finish is good, looks factory. Anybody install a screen to protect the filter now that it's a bottom feeder ?
I didn't install a screen yet but I plan on it. I did install a elite eng, http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/C5Products.html, screen on my uncles vette and it is very nice, powder coated and well made. I actually purchased a less expensive screen thinking they would be about the same and they were not, it went back. Well, all this talk got me in the buying mood so off I go.

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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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I have the elite engineering screen. It's a quality manufactured piece. Not flimsy at all, and good plating.

I emailed Callaway about using it, before I purchased the Honker, and they said it shouldnt hurt airflow at all.

I was also surprised at how many leaves I swept off the radiator before installation. I'm sure some leaves would block the air filter if the screen was not used.

Installation from my garage floor was a little challenging, but doable.

Good luck!
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