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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Been reading up on sealing the FAST intake and noticed a lot of old discussion (early 2005) about the FAST intake not sitting flat on the heads and as a result not sealing well. Is this issue corrected?
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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I wonder if this is the reason some are having idle problems
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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If torqued correctly, and using the proper valley cover bolts,(don't ask me how I know) the FAST manifold will always seal fine. It's pretty flexible, so if not done to spec., you could have problems.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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I wonder if this is the reason some are having idle problems


Not a fan of the intake, seems to me that folks pay a lot of money, and there is problems to be had and often have issues getting them tuned in.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Some people love 'em some people hate 'em. Ever wonder why they are always plenty like new ones for sale?
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Never seen that problem.The idle problems are probly from the crappy MAP sensor setup.I always use a 1/4 pipe barb fitting to make sure the MAP has no leaks.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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I took mine apart and cleaned up the ports and before putting it back together I put a small bead of black silicone on top of the gasket and the rectangle intake gaskets that I took off my old intake I flopped them around so the back side is now facing out,Seems to me it would seal better that way.If you look at those gaskets you will see what I mean.In another post I mentioned that the intake was hitting the small crossover coolant pipe,I just tapped it with a rubber malet and the Fast intake fits fine........................Paul

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Never seen that problem.The idle problems are probly from the crappy MAP sensor setup.I always use a 1/4 pipe barb fitting to make sure the MAP has no leaks.
i wish i knew that trick before i installed mine
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Bob....

I normally provide this sheet with the guys buying the ported FAST from me....some if it doesn't apply if you dont have one of my intakes (with the inserts installed) but alot of it is very good general information for anyone installing one (a FAST intake). By the way I only started doing this a few months ago so the guys who purchased from me before that probably never saw this. It directly covers the concerns you brought up here...

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FAST INTAKE INSTALLATION TIPS

**********PLEASE READ**********

1) Do NOT overtighten the (5) bolts that mount the TB to the snout of the FAST. I have installed steel threaded inserts and they will crack the manifold flange if tightened too much. You’re not torquing down a cylinder head….a little more than snug is adequate.

2) Note that the supplied FAST 90 mm O-Ring is very stiff (non-pliable) and once you get all the 5 bolts snug as you continue to tighten them you will start to just bend the ears of the intake flange (in most applications). If you put a little loctite on the bolts you could leave a small gap between the TB and the intake flange because additional tightening will only bend the ears, NOT remove the gap. Snug the TB evenly and then go a little more (evenly) but not so much that you severely distort the ears….a drop of blue loctite will prevent the bolts from loosening.

3) When finally bolting the intake to the heads work your way from the center outward (like the way you would bolt a head to an engine) only snugging the bolts each time you go around. By the time you get the outside bolts snug, the inside bolts will be loose and you then start the sequence over starting from the center once again and working your way out. This may take up to a half a dozen times till all the bolts are snugged securely and none of them feel loose. Go over them one more time making sure they are tight….don’t be shy as there is a lot of thread engagement but don’t go crazy either….a ¼ inch drive ratchet with a metric allen socket works great.

4) Make sure you have NEW intake O-Ring gaskets installed in the manifold….I don’t recommend re-using old crushed OEM gaskets. The Comp Cam’s gaskets are preferred over the OEM versions because they are thicker and do a better job sealing up the FAST intake which occasionally come from the factory with a pretty good warp to them right out of the box. The tightening sequence above will straighten that out leaving you with zero issues but new intake gaskets are recommended. The Comp P/N is 54009-8

5) Do NOT forget to swap the valley tray bolts with the supplied button head bolts (lower profile) that FAST has provided. You will crack the lower half of the intake manifold if you omit this step.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Step 5. Did my FAST in by cracking ever spot where the bolt heads "kissed" the bottom of the FAST intake
Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
Bob....

I normally provide this sheet with the guys buying the ported FAST from me....some if it doesn't apply if you dont have one of my intakes (with the inserts installed) but alot of it is very good general information for anyone installing one (a FAST intake). By the way I only started doing this a few months ago so the guys who purchased from me before that probably never saw this. It directly covers the concerns you brought up here...

Regards,
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FAST INTAKE INSTALLATION TIPS

**********PLEASE READ**********

1) Do NOT overtighten the (5) bolts that mount the TB to the snout of the FAST. I have installed steel threaded inserts and they will crack the manifold flange if tightened too much. You’re not torquing down a cylinder head….a little more than snug is adequate.

2) Note that the supplied FAST 90 mm O-Ring is very stiff (non-pliable) and once you get all the 5 bolts snug as you continue to tighten them you will start to just bend the ears of the intake flange (in most applications). If you put a little loctite on the bolts you could leave a small gap between the TB and the intake flange because additional tightening will only bend the ears, NOT remove the gap. Snug the TB evenly and then go a little more (evenly) but not so much that you severely distort the ears….a drop of blue loctite will prevent the bolts from loosening.

3) When finally bolting the intake to the heads work your way from the center outward (like the way you would bolt a head to an engine) only snugging the bolts each time you go around. By the time you get the outside bolts snug, the inside bolts will be loose and you then start the sequence over starting from the center once again and working your way out. This may take up to a half a dozen times till all the bolts are snugged securely and none of them feel loose. Go over them one more time making sure they are tight….don’t be shy as there is a lot of thread engagement but don’t go crazy either….a ¼ inch drive ratchet with a metric allen socket works great.

4) Make sure you have NEW intake O-Ring gaskets installed in the manifold….I don’t recommend re-using old crushed OEM gaskets. The Comp Cam’s gaskets are preferred over the OEM versions because they are thicker and do a better job sealing up the FAST intake which occasionally come from the factory with a pretty good warp to them right out of the box. The tightening sequence above will straighten that out leaving you with zero issues but new intake gaskets are recommended. The Comp P/N is 54009-8

5) Do NOT forget to swap the valley tray bolts with the supplied button head bolts (lower profile) that FAST has provided. You will crack the lower half of the intake manifold if you omit this step.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by George V
I wonder if this is the reason some are having idle problems
Does it "whistle" also? Reason I ask is because mine's was cracked and had a vacuum leak.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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From what I understand in reading some of Tony's other posts, there is a fix for the whistle by modifying some piece behind the throttle body. Tony would really need to comment on this though.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperC5
Step 5. Did my FAST in by cracking ever spot where the bolt heads "kissed" the bottom of the FAST intake

I too am a member of the " I don't need directions for an intake install" (dumbass) club.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Never seen that problem.The idle problems are probly from the crappy MAP sensor setup.I always use a 1/4 pipe barb fitting to make sure the MAP has no leaks.
Did you thread the hole in the manifold or glue or ??? to remotely mount the map sensor?
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