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Jun 20, 2007 | 10:32 AM

billiardcue

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lean vs rich cylinders

Which cylinders on an LSx typically run the leanest, which run the richest?
Why don't both banks run the same air fuel ratio?

Jun 20, 2007 | 10:37 AM

dougbfresh

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???? Why do you think some run leaner/richer than others?

Jun 20, 2007 | 11:02 AM

AU N EGL

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#7 runs leaner. #8 has the least oiling and cooling around the cyclinder.

a good tuner can tune or turn up the A/F ratio of #7 without effecting the others.

#7 and 8 are the two problem cyclinders in the LS1, LS6 motors.

Jun 20, 2007 | 11:13 AM

dougbfresh

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How would you know for sure without sampling exhaust gas seperatly? Maybe EGT on each cylinder?

Jun 20, 2007 | 11:15 AM

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How would you know for sure without sampling exhaust gas seperatly? Maybe EGT on each cylinder?

Yes, EGT each cylinder. Or you can just base the tune off of #7. Like someone above already said(i think).

Jun 20, 2007 | 11:23 AM

billiardcue

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Most engines typically have cylinders that run leaner or richer than the rest due to the intake manifold design, throttle body position, etc.
I would assume that cylinders 7 & 8 run the richest as they are furthest from the throttle body.
Bought new injectors and they are flow rated so I figure I'll match them to the motor's inherent properties.
I know that the left bank runs leaner as I have two wideband O2 sensors.

Jun 20, 2007 | 11:36 AM

billiardcue

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a good tuner can tune or turn up the A/F ratio of #7 without effecting the others

How do you do this?

I use EFILive.

Jun 20, 2007 | 11:43 AM

dougbfresh

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Can you adjust injector pulse width individually?

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Jun 20, 2007 | 11:59 AM

vettenuts

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I had my injectors cleaned and flowed. I put the two that flowed the most in 7 & 8 as a precaution since I knew the numbers.

Jun 20, 2007 | 12:43 PM

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Can you adjust injector pulse width individually?

Not with the stock PCM.

Jun 20, 2007 | 02:27 PM

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Not with the stock PCM.

SO, that would mean adjusting a single cylinders A/F ratio would not be possible with a stock PCM?? I would think it's an all or nothing proposition with the stock computer.

Jun 20, 2007 | 02:35 PM

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blkvett01

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I might be wrong but in HP tuner you can adjust the table by left bank and right bank. In the table map i saw adjustment for that but not sure about each injector i think it is left and right, just like the o2 sensor read left anf right bank.

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