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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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They look to me like they're for a 46-48 DeSoto straight six with a split exhaust manifold.
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
Ive been threw like 6 drive cycles by now still no light Getting allot worse mpg though probably due to not being tuned i assume ?
Yep, my mileage went way down with the installation of my stainless works headers. Your MAF is now out of calibration most likely causing positive fuel trims.
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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I don't think they will send them back to China to fix(speculation on 'country of origin')
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Well this just proves that your better off spending the extra $ on decent headers. This is what SS Auto Chrome sent to me

HELLO CAN YOU CONTACT tstarsvette@yahoo.com HE CAN ASSIST YOU IN RESOLVING YOUR ISSUE, AS HE ISA MASTER VETTE MECHANIC THANKS!

Tstars is a forum member. While im sure he knows what hes talking about i doubt he can magicaly make my passenger side header not made wrong. What a joke ........

You deffinatly get what you pay for. Yes they are on my car and they are working---- After heating them up and smashing the collector down for a half hour --- but i still wish i would have bought LG streets for 1000 bucks

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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Well this just proves that your better off spending the extra $ on decent headers. This is what SS Auto Chrome sent to me

HELLO CAN YOU CONTACT tstarsvette@yahoo.com HE CAN ASSIST YOU IN RESOLVING YOUR ISSUE, AS HE ISA MASTER VETTE MECHANIC THANKS!

Tstars is a forum member. While im sure he knows what hes talking about i doubt he can magicaly make my passenger side header not made wrong. What a joke ........

You deffinatly get what you pay for. Yes they are on my car and they are working---- After heating them up and smashing the collector down for a half hour --- but i still wish i would have bought LG streets for 1000 bucks
Sorry to read about your troubles. I bet ya they just copied TPIS headers and never test fitted on a vette to make sure fitment was good. SSautochrome/XS power or what ever they called has a really bad rap in the sport compact market. No one buys there product anymore. Guess that is why you are seeing ebay camaro and vette headers from them. guess they are looking for new suckers. Just makes me sick. great american vette with black market chinese headers.
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
You deffinatly get what you pay for. Yes they are on my car and they are working---- After heating them up and smashing the collector down for a half hour --- but i still wish i would have bought LG streets for 1000 bucks


Let me get this straight, you spent a half hour making them fit, but you're willing to pay $700 more for a perfect fitting set. In other words, your time is worth $1400 per hour at that rate. Sorry, but ease of installation isn't worth that much to me. I've had mine on for a year and a half and they're holding up just fine.
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
You deffinatly get what you pay for. Yes they are on my car and they are working---- After heating them up and smashing the collector down for a half hour --- but i still wish i would have bought LG streets for 1000 bucks
I can understand your frustration.

Did you review the thread regarding these headers? That thread pretty much goes over all the issues that people have been experiencing and what possible resolutions there are (bending the AC pipe, flipping the mounting bracket, etc).

I believe it mentions about the pipes not being level, but it can easily be compensated with the mid pipe connections. (as mentioned earlier in this thread)

Many people purchase these headers knowing about what many would consider "minor" issues, and for the price, you cannot beat them.

Then there are others who just want to bolt something on and have it be perfect. That is fine, but that comes with a cost (then you have to add Vette tax onto that).
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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wonderful, I am installing a set for a customer tomorrow so I will report back on what we think.. I have never even seen a set in person..
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sxe60
Let me get this straight, you spent a half hour making them fit, but you're willing to pay $700 more for a perfect fitting set. In other words, your time is worth $1400 per hour at that rate. Sorry, but ease of installation isn't worth that much to me. I've had mine on for a year and a half and they're holding up just fine.
I have about $570 bucks into it all now that its all said and done with clamps ect.... So its more like $430 bucks more

I suppose the money saved will cover the cost of a tune. I just hate bad craftmanship. I did read the thread about them before buying. Bending a AC line is no big deal but i had to get these things cherry red and smash it down the better part of a half inch just to bolt it to the head It really doesnt seem like it would be that hard to make a decent product

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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Guys, I don't know how/why but sometimes the headers can be unbolted and then re-bolted and they will "move". I got my LG Streets in pretty well with the help of a friend and the fitment was ok. However, after CT Corvette (Steve D) installed clutch/heads/cam on my car, he bolted them back in and the fitment was better than when I did it. I do know the heads were replaced, but they're "supposed" to be identical in bolt pattern to my origional ones. All I'm saying is that loosening and moving the header around can sometimes net a huge difference in header location, even though it "looks" like they're installed properly and are fitting tightly against the heads. Just an idea.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris@East Coast Supercharging
wonderful, I am installing a set for a customer tomorrow so I will report back on what we think.. I have never even seen a set in person..
It's always a good time when the customer supplies the parts , I learned this early on when warned by Don K.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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As a rule of thumb, if they're polished, regardless of brand name, they're made in China. If they're sold on ebay you can bet your last dollar they're made overseas. Inferior quality materials and hit or miss on fitment with hardly an avenue to customer service. These unfortunately are the facts.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Well i gotta give SS Auto chrome some credit now. I got a email a couple days ago stateing they wanted my address and were going to send me a new one. I wasnt holding my breath but i got the fedex shipping number today. Im feeling less screwed over now.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sxe60
Let me get this straight, you spent a half hour making them fit, but you're willing to pay $700 more for a perfect fitting set. In other words, your time is worth $1400 per hour at that rate. Sorry, but ease of installation isn't worth that much to me. I've had mine on for a year and a half and they're holding up just fine.
$700 more for LG’s, come on lets keep it straight here. For LG street series the headers only are $695 and for the standard system, headers, mid section , X pipe, new air tube, clamps, gaskits and O2 extension cables are $995. I bought mine two years ago for $1100 +$200 more with the cats. A month later LG dropped the price to $995 so they gave me a store credit of $100, which I applied to O2 sims. Fit was perfect but I will admit the clamps were pretty wimpy and I busted a couple trying to seal up the joints. Called LG and they sent me new heavy duty clamps at no cost. Customer service was great. Ultimately I went with stepped band clamps made by torctite. For me that extra $395 (header’s only, LG vs e-Bay) was well worth it. JMHO

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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
I have about $570 bucks into it all now that its all said and done with clamps ect.... So its more like $430 bucks more

I suppose the money saved will cover the cost of a tune. I just hate bad craftmanship. I did read the thread about them before buying. Bending a AC line is no big deal but i had to get these things cherry red and smash it down the better part of a half inch just to bolt it to the head It really doesnt seem like it would be that hard to make a decent product
To add onto this craftsmanship makes a huge difference.You will NEVER receive the same amount of power from ebay headers compared to a quality product like a LG.Headers from higher tier companies are designed to create maximum power and just welding pipes together won't do the trick.
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I would buy the following items on e bay:
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glad I read this thread.
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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
Well i gotta give SS Auto chrome some credit now. I got a email a couple days ago stateing they wanted my address and were going to send me a new one. I wasnt holding my breath but i got the fedex shipping number today. Im feeling less screwed over now.
Good for you! Good job SS AUTO Chrome!



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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
Well this just proves that your better off spending the extra $ on decent headers. This is what SS Auto Chrome sent to me

HELLO CAN YOU CONTACT tstarsvette@yahoo.com HE CAN ASSIST YOU IN RESOLVING YOUR ISSUE, AS HE ISA MASTER VETTE MECHANIC THANKS!

Tstars is a forum member. While im sure he knows what hes talking about i doubt he can magicaly make my passenger side header not made wrong. What a joke ........

You deffinatly get what you pay for. Yes they are on my car and they are working---- After heating them up and smashing the collector down for a half hour --- but i still wish i would have bought LG streets for 1000 bucks
Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
Well i gotta give SS Auto chrome some credit now. I got a email a couple days ago stateing they wanted my address and were going to send me a new one. I wasnt holding my breath but i got the fedex shipping number today. Im feeling less screwed over now.
I just came across this thread. First and foremost I do NOT work for SSAC and I am NOT a mechanic let alone a Master Vette Mechanic, whatever the hell that is! I got involved because they genuinely want to produce a good product for us, I believe that. They’ve assured me the Headers are made in Georgia, dunno but they haven’t lied to me yet that I’m aware of. They want to expand their product line to include C5 Catbacks and C6 Headers, which I’m sure will go through growing pains in here, just like these Headers are currently…
A lot of Forum members (sex60, tblu92 ect…) have had a hand directly or in-directly in re-designing these things and I believe a third redesign is being produced, because of the Forum’s involvement SSAC offer’s us a special price… I eventually established a rapport with someone there who appears to be a mover and shaker because he gets things done, maybe he’s a Vette owner???? They’ve asked me to verify Forum membership, hence my name being thrown all over the place in here concerning these and sometimes in a negative context like now, which I do not appreciate!
I don’t know why but these sure do evoke a lot of emotion and controversy in here. I think they use an unorthodox approach but it gives us one heck of a price break and I’m all for that! There’s enough honest info about these things in here, do your research! If you’re comfortable with the known problems go for it! If you’re not, don’t… If there is a problem, I’ll do my best to help
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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
Well i gotta give SS Auto chrome some credit now. I got a email a couple days ago stateing they wanted my address and were going to send me a new one. I wasnt holding my breath but i got the fedex shipping number today. Im feeling less screwed over now.
Tell us how "less screwed over" you're feeling when your under you car tearing it apart again, and hoping it will actually fit this time.

Fingers crossed for you dude.
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