bleeding clutch w/ Remote bleeder
Burning Brakes
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From: Mansfield Texas
apologize as i'm not intending to hijack the thread but i'm about to unbolt the torque tube and pull the motor but how did i get the two lines that go to the slave cylinder disconnected for removal??
Le Mans Master
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From: Phoenix Arizona
have you looked under there? 
i am getting one of these :
http://www.toolsource.com/hydraulic-...87rs8pnm1jsrj3
or this one
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Last edited by rustyguns; Mar 9, 2008 at 09:55 PM.
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From: West Norriton PA
St. Jude Donor '08
You could however disconnect the torque tube and bolt it on to do the test, buy you cannot create enough force to push the hydraulic slave to open the clutch without the leverage of the clutch pedal.
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From: ATLANTA GA
Im about to break down and get a new master cylinder..
I still see black fliid coming out.. Under close examination in a clean clear container, you can see
little black flakes, looks like sand but black in the black flud... Im assumeing the seals in the master were going because I had a pedal problem for awhile..
So ill replace that so I know the "pump" of the system is good, and try a thorough rebleed..
I still see black fliid coming out.. Under close examination in a clean clear container, you can see
little black flakes, looks like sand but black in the black flud... Im assumeing the seals in the master were going because I had a pedal problem for awhile..
So ill replace that so I know the "pump" of the system is good, and try a thorough rebleed..
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From: West Norriton PA
St. Jude Donor '08
Im about to break down and get a new master cylinder..
I still see black fliid coming out.. Under close examination in a clean clear container, you can see
little black flakes, looks like sand but black in the black flud... Im assumeing the seals in the master were going because I had a pedal problem for awhile..
So ill replace that so I know the "pump" of the system is good, and try a thorough rebleed..
I still see black fliid coming out.. Under close examination in a clean clear container, you can see
little black flakes, looks like sand but black in the black flud... Im assumeing the seals in the master were going because I had a pedal problem for awhile..
So ill replace that so I know the "pump" of the system is good, and try a thorough rebleed..
It always recommended to replace all of the hydraulics when doing a clutch job, because it's a beeotch to have to pull down everything again.
Le Mans Master
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From: Phoenix Arizona
climb up and hit the pedal! 
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From: West Norriton PA
St. Jude Donor '08
And that won't tell ya anything because the slave won't be pushing up against the pressure plate.
It's like pressing a piston of the caliper that is off the car, it will just blow the piston out because it won't have any resistance.
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From: V town california
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Le Mans Master
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From: Phoenix Arizona
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Just had a similar issue on my Pantera. When bleeding the brakes you
push the piston and seal in the master much farther down and well past it normal travel. If you have any corrosion in the normally unused master bore it can destroy the seal very quickly and cause what yuo're seeing. Just a thought and hope it helps.
push the piston and seal in the master much farther down and well past it normal travel. If you have any corrosion in the normally unused master bore it can destroy the seal very quickly and cause what yuo're seeing. Just a thought and hope it helps.
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From: At the beach in little Rhody
Not sure if you caught it in my earlier post in this thread, if you have the old slave why not cut the line and plug it into your master to see if the master is working correctly. Did you only replace the slave?
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I replaced the slave but It didnt come with the line, So i Reused it..
I used a mighty vac and this helped out termendously..
The car is driveable now, however the pedeal still isnt coming up more than half way..
This car has suffered this for awhile, and I was hopeing the slave cylinder would have fixed it.. car has 122k.
Due to the severeity of th black fluid, I m going to go ahead and Replace the master cyilder too and rebleed it.. Im wanting the pedal to shoot all the way back up like its intended to..
Do the seals in the master cylinder go bad and cause it not to Return the pedal properly?
I used a mighty vac and this helped out termendously..
The car is driveable now, however the pedeal still isnt coming up more than half way..
This car has suffered this for awhile, and I was hopeing the slave cylinder would have fixed it.. car has 122k.
Due to the severeity of th black fluid, I m going to go ahead and Replace the master cyilder too and rebleed it.. Im wanting the pedal to shoot all the way back up like its intended to..
Do the seals in the master cylinder go bad and cause it not to Return the pedal properly?
Le Mans Master
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From: Phoenix Arizona
I replaced the slave but It didnt come with the line, So i Reused it..
I used a mighty vac and this helped out termendously..
The car is driveable now, however the pedeal still isnt coming up more than half way..
This car has suffered this for awhile, and I was hopeing the slave cylinder would have fixed it.. car has 122k.
Due to the severeity of th black fluid, I m going to go ahead and Replace the master cyilder too and rebleed it.. Im wanting the pedal to shoot all the way back up like its intended to..
Do the seals in the master cylinder go bad and cause it not to Return the pedal properly?
I used a mighty vac and this helped out termendously..
The car is driveable now, however the pedeal still isnt coming up more than half way..
This car has suffered this for awhile, and I was hopeing the slave cylinder would have fixed it.. car has 122k.
Due to the severeity of th black fluid, I m going to go ahead and Replace the master cyilder too and rebleed it.. Im wanting the pedal to shoot all the way back up like its intended to..
Do the seals in the master cylinder go bad and cause it not to Return the pedal properly?
good news about the mity vac!
did not know mileage was so high, i bet your master is gone
prob why it was so hard to get it purged to begin with...old master
Burning Brakes
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Malfunctioning Master Monitored...
Here is the inside of a malfunctioning master...
Use the Mity Vac once a month if you drive your car hard.
I use some silicone grease on the bleeder end to help seal the Mity Vac hose. Less vacuum leakage.
Also, a couple of times a year, I have my wife pump the clutch pedal to agitate the master while I bleed the system.
Use the Mity Vac once a month if you drive your car hard.
I use some silicone grease on the bleeder end to help seal the Mity Vac hose. Less vacuum leakage.
Also, a couple of times a year, I have my wife pump the clutch pedal to agitate the master while I bleed the system.
