Cam install parts
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Douglasville Ga
Cam install parts
I am looking to do a cam install this fall and wanted to make sure that I have a good comprehensive list of parts needs for the engine to run properly. Here is what I have;
Cam (looking at the G5x3)
Springs
Retainers
Seats
Seals
Injectors (SVO #30)
Timing chain (While I have it apart anyway)
From post
POrted oil pump
Lifters
Underdrive pulley
Timing cover gaskets with Water pump gaskets
arp balancer bolt
Timing chain dampener
I am sure that I am missing something and I know I will think of it later, but I just don't want to have to run out and buy something last minute during the install. Also, if anyone has any of these parts for sale, shoot me a pm.
Nick
Cam (looking at the G5x3)
Springs
Retainers
Seats
Seals
Injectors (SVO #30)
Timing chain (While I have it apart anyway)
From post
POrted oil pump
Lifters
Underdrive pulley
Timing cover gaskets with Water pump gaskets
arp balancer bolt
Timing chain dampener
I am sure that I am missing something and I know I will think of it later, but I just don't want to have to run out and buy something last minute during the install. Also, if anyone has any of these parts for sale, shoot me a pm.
Nick
Last edited by Bigstik; Jul 23, 2008 at 02:47 PM.
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
-Powerbond harmonic Damper
-LS2 timing chain
-Timing chain dampener (your 03 Block is most likely drilled to utilize the dampener)
-Caddy Racing Lifters
- New oil pump and pick up tube O ring (I used a melling pump) It is excellent!!
- Assembly lube
- Lock Tight (RED & Blue)
- Timing chain cover seal and damper seal.
Make sure that you put the timing chain cover seal on in the CORRECT orientation or it will leak!!
BC
-LS2 timing chain
-Timing chain dampener (your 03 Block is most likely drilled to utilize the dampener)
-Caddy Racing Lifters
- New oil pump and pick up tube O ring (I used a melling pump) It is excellent!!
- Assembly lube
- Lock Tight (RED & Blue)
- Timing chain cover seal and damper seal.
Make sure that you put the timing chain cover seal on in the CORRECT orientation or it will leak!!
BC
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Burning Brakes
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From: Douglasville Ga
Man.....there is a lot more crap involved than I orginally thought. Which is exactly why i posted this. To make sure that I had everything I needed to begin with. I am sure something will come up, but this is helping a lot.
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '06
a new water pump will depend on mileage. You usually won't need it, but you will need the gasket set. Just get the set that has the water pump and timing cover together.
and yes i was in the same boat as you but i didnt prepare as well as you are
getting a UD damper is a good idea too.
and yes i was in the same boat as you but i didnt prepare as well as you are
getting a UD damper is a good idea too.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Douglasville Ga
Mileage is at 65K right now. I need to update my list with all these things.
also, is this the damper you guys are talking about
http://www.sdparts.com/product/12585...LSEnignes.aspx
also, is this the damper you guys are talking about
http://www.sdparts.com/product/12585...LSEnignes.aspx
Last edited by Bigstik; Jul 23, 2008 at 02:53 PM.
Team Owner
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From: At the beach in little Rhody
Mileage is at 65K right now. I need to update my list with all these things.
also, is this the damper you guys are talking about
http://www.sdparts.com/product/12585...LSEnignes.aspx
also, is this the damper you guys are talking about
http://www.sdparts.com/product/12585...LSEnignes.aspx
A Powerbond damper is a good unit, top shelf is ATI.
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Like this chain dampener:
Engines before 2004 were suppose to NOT have them. Some 2002 and 2003 blocks were machined to accept the chain dampener but the actual dampeners were not installed in the machined holes. My 02 Z was machined to accept the dampener!!
This is a harmonic balancer. Its the thing that the pipe wrench is attach to:
BC
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
I have a cam very similar to the G5X4. Lots of lift. The base circle of the cam on aftermarket cams is smaller and that put the lifter oiling hole out of position from where it is normally positioned when you use stock lifters. The caddy lifers are suppose to address that anomaly plus the roller is stronger. Better all around lifter than stock.
Drifting
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From: Lake Havasu City AZ
I have a cam very similar to the G5X4. Lots of lift. The base circle of the cam on aftermarket cams is smaller and that put the lifter oiling hole out of position from where it is normally positioned when you use stock lifters. The caddy lifers are suppose to address that anomaly plus the roller is stronger. Better all around lifter than stock.
Thanks,
Mike V
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
To get a cam to properly execute high lift at the correct geometry, the cam base circle is smaller. When you have a small base circle, it puts the lifter further into the lifter bore. The lifters oil hole can be partially blocked when this happens. The caddy lifter is designed to prevent this issue.
The lifter roller wheel is also re-designed to be stronger. Instead of the front and back of the lifter being un shrouded, the entire wheel is shrouded.
New CADDY Racing lifters. Notice the entire wheel is shrouded. The OEM wheel is completely open in the front and back which makes it less strong. With extra lift and extended rpm, a stronger lifter is better in my book.
BC
The lifter roller wheel is also re-designed to be stronger. Instead of the front and back of the lifter being un shrouded, the entire wheel is shrouded.
New CADDY Racing lifters. Notice the entire wheel is shrouded. The OEM wheel is completely open in the front and back which makes it less strong. With extra lift and extended rpm, a stronger lifter is better in my book.
BC
Last edited by Bill Curlee; Jul 23, 2008 at 09:22 PM.
Racer
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From: Long Island NY
Its adjustable PUSH ROD not rods, you only need one
Basicly, you check for the proper length pushrod and then you measure it and get a full set the length that you measured.
To find the proper length choose a lifter that is all the way down on the base circle of the cam. Then slide your adjustable push rod in place and install a rocker arm. Adjust the push rod so the tip of the rocker arm is in the middle of the valve stem. lock the adjustable pushrod and then cycle the motor to make sure the rocker arm dosent roll of the top of the valve stem. measure the lenth of the pushrod with a caliper and you will have the size you need.
Note: This is how its done on first gen smallblocks which i have done it on before. Not sure if its different for a LS motor so if there are any extra steps im missing please feel free to chime in...anyone and everyone
Basicly, you check for the proper length pushrod and then you measure it and get a full set the length that you measured.To find the proper length choose a lifter that is all the way down on the base circle of the cam. Then slide your adjustable push rod in place and install a rocker arm. Adjust the push rod so the tip of the rocker arm is in the middle of the valve stem. lock the adjustable pushrod and then cycle the motor to make sure the rocker arm dosent roll of the top of the valve stem. measure the lenth of the pushrod with a caliper and you will have the size you need.
Note: This is how its done on first gen smallblocks which i have done it on before. Not sure if its different for a LS motor so if there are any extra steps im missing please feel free to chime in...anyone and everyone