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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Recently had a shop here in KC put in a clutch and 3.90 gears among some other things. I was out of town, so I had a friend pick it up. He was driving back to his apartment when he took a slow right-hand turn and let the clutch out in 2nd. As soon as he let the clutch out, he heard a pop and stopped the car. It was leaking diff fluid and he towed it up to his apartment to find that the diff is cracked on the front passenger side. The diff had no more than 100 miles on it and the only time it was under full power was on the dyno. I'm guessing installation error but it was quiet as could be when I drove it. I guess I should also say that I picked the car up a couple weeks earlier and the reason it was back at the shop was for a Racetronix fuel pump and tune. I flew back and had the car towed down Friday morning and was told they would have it out and inspected by later that evening. Now its Monday and I still haven't heard from them. They told me when they get in there if they find that it was installation error and not parts failure then they would fix it. How would one tell if it is installation error and what course of action would you recommend for me to take?

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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Assuming your friend is telling the truth then that would have to be an installation issue to cause that under normal driving circumstances !
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Assuming your friend is telling the truth then that would have to be an installation issue to cause that under normal driving circumstances !

100% sure he's telling the truth. He's also a car guy with an 11 second Silverado SS. He wouldn't wring on it even if I told him to.
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100% sure he's telling the truth. He's also a car guy with an 11 second Silverado SS. He wouldn't wring on it even if I told him to.
ya...then the shop has done something wrong
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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You put a new set of gear under full power on the dyno?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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You put a new set of gear under full power on the dyno?
I was thinking the same thing...
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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You put a new set of gear under full power on the dyno?
Wouldn't be my choice but as long as the rear had a few heat cycles it should have been ok. I had mine installed by RPM on a Thursday and hit the dragstrip on Friday.....with a few heat cycles and 85 miles on it!
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The gears had about 100 miles or so on them over about 8 outings just feeling the car out before the tune and dyno pull were done. They never mentioned that being a problem so I never thought twice about it.
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If my memory serves me correctly, they recommend that you put 500 miles on new gears before getting on it. That being said, it still should not have failed, some gear whine maybe.
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If my memory serves me correctly, they recommend that you put 500 miles on new gears before getting on it. That being said, it still should not have failed, some gear whine maybe.
Who is they.....DTE or GM?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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What case did the new gears go into? The 273 case will not accomodate the gears?
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Man, thats a strange happening. Never heard of the case breaking under normal driving conditions. Good Luck with it and keep us posted
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Originally Posted by motogib1
If my memory serves me correctly, they recommend that you put 500 miles on new gears before getting on it. That being said, it still should not have failed, some gear whine maybe.


when i did my 390s Andy (A&A) told me to take it easy for at least 500 miles to make sure everything settles in and no whine develops
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I believe the reason why our owner's manuals recommend driving at speeds under 55 for the first 500 miles is to properly break in the gears, not the engine. failure to do this could result in annoying gear whine at some point.
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Still no word from the shop and I need this ASAP because I plan on driving it to the Grand Rod Runs in Pigeon Forge, TN. Hurry up guys!
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I don't care if he didn't do a proper breakin period.....The case should never bust open on the type of drving or dyno time he did period !
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Originally Posted by MotleyDrew
I don't care if he didn't do a proper breakin period.....The case should never bust open on the type of drving or dyno time he did period !
true. And if it was a typical inertia dyno, the loading is a lot weaker then being on the road.

Still not a good thing to do IMO; but can't be blamed for the case cracking.
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My case just cracked as well at the track, but it was do to the tranny output shaft snapping causing a nasty chain reaction.
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Originally Posted by Blu
My case just cracked as well at the track, but it was do to the tranny output shaft snapping causing a nasty chain reaction.
That is the norm with these diffs and rear ends. I see them bust at the track all the time but not on the street as the tires will spin before that happens
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Originally Posted by Blu
My case just cracked as well at the track, but it was do to the tranny output shaft snapping causing a nasty chain reaction.
when you get everything built back up, get the trans brace. It is there to prevent that chain reaction.
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