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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
Has recent oil analysis shown a reduction in lead content since the switch to Castrol Edge? How high above the average mean was the lead content?
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I think OldVetter is in the same situation, only he is testing Castrol EDGE.
Both oils claim to have 8 times less wear than Mobil 1 according to the standard wear test. Mobil 1 does not even meet the minimum criteria.
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
My lead levels were staying around 18 - 20 ppm with Mobil 1, with the universal average at 6 ppm. I have not done an analysis since switching to Valvoline.
I think OldVetter is in the same situation, only he is testing Castrol EDGE.
Both oils claim to have 8 times less wear than Mobil 1 according to the standard wear test. Mobil 1 does not even meet the minimum criteria.
I think OldVetter is in the same situation, only he is testing Castrol EDGE.
Both oils claim to have 8 times less wear than Mobil 1 according to the standard wear test. Mobil 1 does not even meet the minimum criteria.
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I switched from a DELCO UPF-44 filter to WIX, because of what people on here said about restrictive filters, my cold oil pressure went up 10-15 psi. Since the C5 oil pressure sensor is AFTER the oil filter, more pressure = more flow. Didn't notice any different sounds.
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Because my last few Used Oil Analysis (UOAs) have shown some wear (increased lead), I have changed from Mobil 1 to Castrol Edge 5W-30 (and as always, I use a WIX oil filter). Later, after 6500 miles or so (I go by OLM), we will see if Edge has 8 times less wear.
Oh, BTW, I am aware that you can't always consider UOA numbers to show actual wear (according to some). But, something has changed the last 3 years, and maybe it was Mobil 1's formula? Maybe it is just my engine normally wearing (it has 119,681 miles on it). We shall see.
Here are my "increased lead" readings (note: I do not do a UOA every oil change)
Miles / Lead (ppm) / (Date) / miles on oil sample
64,168 / 7 / (5/2003) / 6,036
95,517 / 11 / (4/2006) / 5,773
107,315 / 20 / (9/2007) / 6,127
113,499 / 18 / (6/2008) / 6,183
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Do you mean your max cold oil pressure? At idle, or whenever the oil pump is not in relief mode, a more restrictive filter can't be detected by looking at the oil gauge that has sensor after the filter. A more restrictive filter can only be detected this way by making the oil pump go into pressure relief mode.
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Put on a new AC PF-46 filter. If the noise goes away, your Mobil 1 filter was defective. (If you're using the correct viscosity oil.)
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The only thing that I did differant was change the brand of filter. I used the same oil just changed to a mobil one filter.The weather has been nasty so when it clears up I will take it to work and change filters and see what happens.So until then I will drive my old 45 mpg civic beater LOL.
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
The only thing that I did differant was change the brand of filter. I used the same oil just changed to a mobil one filter.The weather has been nasty so when it clears up I will take it to work and change filters and see what happens.So until then I will drive my old 45 mpg civic beater LOL.
How is the civic's oil pressure?
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The only thing that I did differant was change the brand of filter. I used the same oil just changed to a mobil one filter.The weather has been nasty so when it clears up I will take it to work and change filters and see what happens.So until then I will drive my old 45 mpg civic beater LOL.
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I mean before the oil runs through the entire system, your initial high readings as soon as you start the car. As oil flows through the entire system and reaches "steady state", there are more restrictive points than the filter, so the oil pressure shows those readings. If you call this initial pressure the "pressure relief mode", so be it, although I thought that was went oil filter is by-passed (in the C5 the bypass is set at 72 psi and is built into the oil pump/block, not the oil filter).
The oil pump's pressure relief valve is what regulates the oil pressure to never exceed a maximum valve. The oil filter's bypass valve only opens and bypasses oil around the filtering media inside the filter when the pressure differential across the filter is at or above the bypass valve setting. Yes, the filter bypass valve is in the engine block ... not the filter.
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I have Mobil-1 oil filter on my H/C motor, there is no difference from the AC delco I usually run. I happened to see it on sale with a case of M1 oil for 25 bucks; it was a no brainer coz i was due for a change.
oh yeah and the color of the filter was bad azz, it matched the paint of my car. i know the chicks will dig it if they look under there.
oh yeah and the color of the filter was bad azz, it matched the paint of my car. i know the chicks will dig it if they look under there.
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I switched from a DELCO UPF-44 filter to WIX, because of what people on here said about restrictive filters, my cold oil pressure went up 10-15 psi. Since the C5 oil pressure sensor is AFTER the oil filter, more pressure = more flow. Didn't notice any different sounds.
Recently I changed from Mobil 1 oil to Castrol Edge (due to some wear (high lead) readings on used oil analysis) and my car did quiet down.
Recently I changed from Mobil 1 oil to Castrol Edge (due to some wear (high lead) readings on used oil analysis) and my car did quiet down.
Thank's so much
