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Sep 16, 2009 | 02:23 PM

USN32

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Cam Questions???

I'm looking at purchasing a new cam from a forum member by itself and was wondering what other parts would be necessary to make the switch... ?

I would probably be looking to do a cam only swap because I don't have oodles of money at the moment. Will I see good gains from a cam only swap ? I do plan to get long tube headers and heads in the future, but probably not for another year or so. Is it worth it to make the cam swap now or should I just hold off on it?

Am I thinking about all of this the right way? Any advice would be great?

Thanks, Matt

Sep 16, 2009 | 02:27 PM

Kryckter

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Originally Posted by USN32

Just a cam swap, would be good for 20rwhp in my opinion with no headers, etc.

Just to do a cam swap normally means, new valve springs and pushrods. To do it more proper, you should change out the timing set while your there, and replace the oil pump. This does not include the gaskets, bolts, etc. More than likely, you will also need a tune. If its an auto car, probably going to need a stall as well.

Id say hold off until you can do it complete, with at least headers and all the above mentioned parts. Then a cam swap and good tune can net you up to 50 rwhp or more.

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Sep 16, 2009 | 02:47 PM

USN32

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Thanks,

Another ? I looked at a couple cam swap packages at shops and what not and was wondering if there was any way to gather all the items cheaper and then just get it installed at a shop. Is it reasonable to think that I could find a camp, pushrods, valve springs, etc. used from forum members and what not? Would I be sacrificing performance by doing that?

Sep 16, 2009 | 04:36 PM

MattB

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Valve springs definitely not used. Push rods, you may not need to change, but it is wise to check for the correct length each time you change out a part. I'd think its kind of risky doing a cam only and not at least doing new valve springs. IMO once you go beyond a medium cam the springs are a wear item, good only for x number of miles.

The problem with doing a cam only on a budget is that you will need a tune if its a good sized cam. That can set you back $500 at the min.

Normally, the upgrade route is, CAI, Headers then onto heads/cam or FI.

Not to say that the cam is not a good deal. But, I'd rather suggest going to the track and having fun with it at a HPDE and find out what it can really do stock

Sep 16, 2009 | 05:30 PM

AU N EGL

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http://www.englandgreen.com/index.html

has a whole package

"England Green Cam Packages"

"Price is $1595 shipped to the lower 48 states.

Always remember, you WILL need a computer tune after a cam swap - so factor in some $$$$ for that item.

Our cam package contains the following parts:
1 x EnglandGreen custom grind cam
1 x GM Front Cover Gasket
1 x GM Front Cover seal
2 x GM Waterpump seals
1 x GM Crank Bolt
1 x GM LS2 Timing Chain
1 x GM Oil pump pickup O-Ring
1 x High volume, high flow oil pump
1 x 160 degree thermostat
16 x Patriot Extreme dual valve springs with titanium retainers
16 x 7.400 inch chromemoly hardened pushrods
1 x 25% underdrive crank pulley
1 x New serpentine belt
1 x tube of Red Locktite"

plus Tune

Last edited by AU N EGL; Sep 16, 2009 at 05:34 PM.