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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric D
Manley, I apologues if you felt I had set you up. My reason for my response was to try and understand what you were saying.
If you take a look at molson’s post right after your response, “you can notice a difference in power delivery”. The fact of the matter, it will increase the amount of vibration into the vehicle with no benefit. If you took a ¼ mile run with stock engine mounts and then replaced them with poly mounts and ran the ¼ mile again you would see zero benefit in track times. I see a number of folks that will make statements like this about Corvettes. Unlike the “F body” mount changes on the Corvette will not gain you much if anything at all.
I gotcha

And I agree with the difference being null or at the most very minimal.

I only see it as a "fun factor" for my street warrior. lol. I love the rattle feel. lol.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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I would start with poly mounts, imo. They are a nice gain, I had them in my Camaro, and I have a poly diff mount on my C5 (which, IMO, makes the biggest difference in wheelhop). Solid mounts, IMO, are too impractical for the gain over poly mounts.

Downside is, a good set of poly mounts will cost you. I use VBP stuff, and the motor and rear diff mounts will set you back almost $500 total with shipping.

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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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I used the ones found on the auction site for around $100.

They come with a lifetime warranty

With my old mounts I could shake the engine back and forth with my hand.

Perhaps I notice a bigger difference because my stock ones could have been worn out.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric D
Well, I take it that you are new to Corvettes. Our Corvettes are different than most other cars on the road. They have a propshaft that rotates in a torque tube. These to parts allows the reacting torque a direct path back to the engine without going through the engine mounts. If you would like to learn more about this I would suggest reading this THREAD starting with post #15.
Uh, what? From Wikipedia, which has a pretty good article on how a torque tube setup works:

"The "torque tube" transmits this force by directly coupling the axle differential to the transmission and therefore propels the car forward by pushing on the engine/transmission and then through the engine mounts to the car frame. In contrast, the Hotchkiss drive has the traction forces transmitted to the car frame by using other suspension components such as leaf springs or trailing arms."

All of the force of the motor that gets translated into motion goes through the motor mounts. The rotational force, on the other hand, stays the same as in a Hotchkiss drive; the motor will flex when you rev it, responding to Newton's Third Law of Motion that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The motor internals are driving the drive shaft in the torque tube in one direction, so the motor's externals will end up trying to drive in the other direction. You mount the motor to the frame to counter this motion. If it wasn't for the motor mounts absorbing the rotational force of the motor and transmitting them to the frame, the first time you stepped on the go pedal the motor would just twist in place at RPM (what an interesting picture that provides).

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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Trios
Uh, what? From Wikipedia, which has a pretty good article on how a torque tube setup works:

"The "torque tube" transmits this force by directly coupling the axle differential to the transmission and therefore propels the car forward by pushing on the engine/transmission and then through the engine mounts to the car frame. In contrast, the Hotchkiss drive has the traction forces transmitted to the car frame by using other suspension components such as leaf springs or trailing arms."

All of the force of the motor that gets translated into motion goes through the motor mounts. The rotational force, on the other hand, stays the same as in a Hotchkiss drive; the motor will flex when you rev it, responding to Newton's Third Law of Motion that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The motor internals are driving the drive shaft in the torque tube in one direction, so the motor's externals will end up trying to drive in the other direction. You mount the motor to the frame to counter this motion. If it wasn't for the motor mounts absorbing the rotational force of the motor and transmitting them to the frame, the first time you stepped on the go pedal the motor would just twist in place at RPM (what an interesting picture that provides).
Trios, I take it you didn't bother to read through the link provided in my earlier post. Everything you posted works well for a conventional car drive system, like a Mustang, or Camaro but not the Corvette. The Corvette is unique with the torque tube (the non-rotating tube that ties the engine to the transmission) with the propshaft that rotates on the inside of the torque tube. Reacting torque from the propshaft travels back on the torque tube directly to the engine block. None of this goes through the engine mounts. All of this is covered in the link referenced earlier.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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This explains the benefit much better than I can...

http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...products_id/99
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