I don’t think anyone here doubts the quality of the product you sell. It’s just that with the compounds used in today’s plug wires, comparing what 1VDC from an ohm meter will see is vastly different than what the pulse from a coil will see.

 

Do what you need. Too many LXS owners will prove that SPARK PLUG WIRES will NOT increase HP/TQ reguardless of construction or HYPE.

As long as yor OEM wires function properly,,,,,you will get the BEST performance from your LSX engine. WIRES will NOT enhance your HP or TQ..............PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

No, I was asked a question as to why I thought MSD made a better wire and I gave my reasons. Buy what you want, I'll use what I know and everyone is happy!

 

If your referring to me in your post I am not selling anything on this forum, I was just stating my opinion based on my previous experience with non LSX motors.

 

Ok.....

 

I agree, although the compounds used in the MSD silicone are heat resistant and wont burn where I've seen GM wires burn by just being close to the header or manifold.

But to say the GM wire will make the LSx perform its best is un-true. ( no dis-respect intended)

What's true is that if the wire is un-damaged it will perform without issue. You can say the same thing about an MSD wire.. or Summit wire for that matter or any wire. If its not damaged it will peform the best.


I dont think anyone here suggested a HP increase at all so not sure why you guys are jumping on him for that. He is a discerning person and wants the best for his money and if the money is the same then the wire with the better features wins.

Most people change their wires when they go to headers for the added heat resistance of the MSD. Some people change their wires because they get dirty and ugly looking and some guys just like to put a wire on there that has the lowest resistance because they know the less resistance the better the spark the better the fuel mixture burn. Does this add power?? That debate will fight on forever...LOL but it certainly doesn't rob power to have a good spark.'

( I have seen dynos graphs where HP was picked up in certain rpm ranges and that would certainly increase the avg hp number but it did not increase the peak HP number. 5-8 hp on a dyno is not proof of a power gain as the dyno will fluctuate that much anyway from run to run.. but it can be argued ..I wont argue it)

So if you can get a wire that is rated better resistance wise and has better heat resistance for the same money why wouldn't you do the best for your money that you can?

The added functionality of the multi-angle boot is something the GM wire does not have as well so again.. more features... lower resistance, better heat resistance .. same cost.... or actually cheaper with the spark plug deal we offer. Seems like a win win situation to me.

 

I was thinking the wires would be the same for the LS1's and LS2's, LS6's, LS3's...etc... but for whatever reason, both ccperformance and gmpartshouse only show the performance wire sets for the C-5's? What's the difference?

 

None, I'll go in and change it

An LSx engine in a car is the same from 98 up. I have not seen the ZR1 package yet how ever, not sure if there is anything different there. Guessing not but I will check one out shortly and adjust the website accordingly.

We also do single wires or a 4 pack and custom lengths and boots


OK added the LS6 in there and the title reads 97- ON so that should cover it.
If you have any questions let me know and I'll do my best to answer them.

 

Wow this started alot. I started this thread with the intentions of finding the best quality plug and wires for a completely stock setup. I've done the hot rod stuff on my now sold Lincoln and havechosen to not go that route with what I think is already a great car. Yes my first vette. Wanted one since I was 15. But I don't want to start with putti g performance stuff on it. I know the plugs and wires are prob orig. I will be putting in the autolite xp5245 and leaning toward gm red tho they are back ordered for how ever long. I've done small upgrades like led lights, hid lows, fat max and interior insulation, rebuilt the TPS sensors, new front top and rear weatherstripping and windshield.
So if with a completely stock set up what is the best way to go with the wires????
I've used MSD on my Lincoln but this is not a ford so I ask.
As for on the road going that fast. Yes I do I've driven over a million miles in my life, I've raced bikes when I was younger and isn't it why we have the power?? Otherwise we could just have all the auto makers stop cars at 70 mph and they would never need to worry about going to fast. There is always a time and place for it and calculating the risk is the first place to start.
BC sent the pm the other day. Thanks

 

There are NO high performance wires for the LS-1 I don't care what wires you purchase, they will not give you any additional HP/TQ over what the stock GM wires gave you stock. Don't purchase HYPE.

Purchase wires for QUALITY, longevity and proper fit, GM red wires fit the coil tower PREFECT and they use the OEM heat shield. The outer jackets are tough and the metal connecting hardware are top quality.

For the price, you cant find a better wire for your C5 than the GM Performance red wires.

 

99blancoss

I have nerve used MSD wires but,,,I have see them damaged. The rubber plug boot jacket is SOFT and easily ripped. The resistance of a plug wire has little or no effect on C5 / C6 plug wires. There so short that the resistance is of no concern. The high voltage does not flow thru the wire rather over the outside of the wire. Most C5/C6 wires are spiral wound high quality nickel alloy wire. This helps provide the least RFI/EMI and the best wire longevity.

I have headers and have never burned a GM wire or for that matter an aftermarket wire. The GM heat shields work very well for heat & RFI/EMI.

Its tough to beat the quality of the GM wires.

 

Hey Bill, I just ordered a set for my '07 from 09blancoss and when I get them on, I'll let you know how they hold up and if I can use the shields or not. I'm up to 93k miles already and I damaged one wire therefore buying something from Autozone to take care of the one, therefore miles and a mismatch, I'm due.

 

thanks everyone for your input, I was able to buy the GM Hot wires in Fl yesterday and at the same time i picked up the ac delco 41-110 iridium plugs and a new fuel filter. so today i did the plugs in CT. the drivers side had three plugs that looked bad they were the stock plugs and wires with 113000 miles on them, the rest looked appropreite considering the age.

 

Im going to have a Corvette Mod Party in Norwich very soon. I will PM you. Your invited!

Congrats on the outstanding TUNE UP!

Bill

 

I have nerve used MSD wires but,,,I have see them damaged. The rubber plug boot jacket is SOFT and easily ripped.

Its a plug wire, How do you rip the jacket? Abuse anything and it isn't going to stand up. It is soft on purpose. Its a multi-angle terminal under there, a stiff boot would not allow manipulation. I have bent these boots and terminals every which way and never torn one. This is the advantage when installing headers. You can bend the boot away from the header. I have burnt GM wires/boots on my headers before using the heat shields.

The resistance of a plug wire has little or no effect on C5 / C6 plug wires. There so short that the resistance is of no concern. The high voltage does not flow thru the wire rather over the outside of the wire. Most C5/C6 wires are spiral wound high quality nickel alloy wire. This helps provide the least RFI/EMI and the best wire longevity.

The GM wire is not better than the MSD wire for a C5/6, Hummer, CTSV, Fbody, GTO any LS platform. Its a wire. The engine does not know who made it. Its is how ever less of a wire than the MSD as it does have more resistance and that is how a wires effectiveness is measured so yes it does matter. For the same price you're getting a better wire with the MSD.

Here is the MSD info for you:

The MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor Wire is "the" performance wire. Engineered from the inside out, the 8.5 offers everything you have ever wanted in a wire; incredibly low resistance without electronic interference! In a single 12 inch length of Super Conductor Wire there is only 40 - 50 ohms of resistance! That is the lowest resistance of any helically wound wire. To accomplish this, we use a copper alloy conductor due to it's great voltage carrying capabilities. The low resistance results in less loss in spark energy so more reaches the spark plug. The conductor is wound extremely tight around a special center core. So tight in fact, that there is over 40 feet of conductor wrapped into a single foot of plug wire. This winding procedure, combined with a ferro-magnetic impregnated center core, produces an extremely effective Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) "choke". This choke, or suppression capability, keeps the EMI inside the wire where it cannot interfere with other electronics on your vehicle. The outer sleeve that surrounds the conductor assembly is just as impressive. A proprietary blend of silicone and synthetic material produce a sleeve that is highly resistant to high heat as well as abrasion and tears.

It might be hard to beat the GM wire but MSD did it. I will post a demonstration of the multi-angle terminal so people can see how to use it.

Also the heat shield will work over the MSD, but wont allow you to use the multi-angle feature of the MSD. You don't need the heat shields with the MSD. Again a better wire.

Put all that together with the fact my wires are guaranteed for life vs defects and it beats the GM wire hands down.

 

just put the red wires on ,they all read 36 ohms ,the MSD's I took off read 26 ohms for 5 wires,1 at around 45 ohms,last 2 are between 100-200plus ohms fluctuating,the car ran bad for awhile looks like the plugs or the wires caused the car to backfire & run on 6 or 7 cylinders,now its perfect

 

I just tested a brand new set of GMPP red wires and all of them in the set were 368 ohms.

 

GM states a large tolerance. That does not mean that the MSD is not a better wire, it means that GM will accept just about anything

We don't use the finish bore from GM when we're building a precision race engine either.

Better heat resistance
Less resistance
Multi angle terminal
Equals a better spark plug wire.

$58 for the wire alone shipped, $68 with NGK. Its the best deal anywhere.