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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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To the rear wheels... that is.. just curious. 2-3 maybe?
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Yep and the smell negates the increase!!!!
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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is it really worth 2-3 hp to fight with passing inspections? just get high flow cats. your nose will thank you.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Shirl
To the rear wheels... that is.. just curious. 2-3 maybe?
Nothing noticeable...but the smell and sound will be.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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I agree with the top. Pro/Cons

Pro:
Weight reduction
MAYBE 3-5 hp
Louder exhaust note

Cons:

You wont pass inspection
If they (the law) catches you...huge fine (google it)
The exhaust smell is horrible
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High flow cats are an option.
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Thanks guys. I have high flow cats already (along w/headers and B&B's). The car already stinks pretty bad on start-up until the cats heat up, so I can't imagine no cats at all. Was more interested in seeing what gains could be had, if any. Thanks for the comments/suggestions.
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my buddy's mustang has no cats and she sure does smell
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My '01 Zo6 has the 4 cats.... I was thinking about gutting the front two pup cats and leaving the rear main cats alone.... it can't hurt.
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It does!! The chamber that you end up with after busting out the core causes turbulence in the pipe and you loose valuable exhaust scavenging thus reducing power. If you want more power, get a set of headers and high flow cats.
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Bill, I respect your opinion as do most here... I will say, that just like many topics on this forum (and other forums) there are always countering opinions for the same topic depending on which thread you're in.

I've heard that the chamber of a pup cat is a pressurized cylinder with the engine running and turbulence due to physics isn't to the level of what you're saying in your post.... in fact it's very minor and is a non-issue.

Again, there are two sides to each coin.

I don't know which one is correct, but there is a 14% reduction in backpressure from the 2 cat pipes ('02+) compared to my 4 catted '01.... -on the cheap, if adding a 224 cam, I think I'll take the "risk" of a little turbulence (if true) for the trade of 14% reduction in backpressure.

Peace.
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Shirl,

If you have hi-flow cats the benefit - as stated here - is grossly outweighed by the stink. Hi-flow cats are pretty efficient.

Kevin
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I'm not running cats. I picked up 2RWHP on a mustang dyno. I do not smell anything but my car was tuned for it. Perhaps that is the diff.
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Originally Posted by BrentNY
I'm not running cats. I picked up 2RWHP on a mustang dyno. I do not smell anything but my car was tuned for it. Perhaps that is the diff.
How much overlap are you running?
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If we are talking about stock engines or bolt ons I would def keep the cats. If we are talking about boost, high RPMs, bigger power then the cats will restrict quite a bit. heads/cam will be fine with hfc's but big cubes, etc should toss em.
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
It does!! The chamber that you end up with after busting out the core causes turbulence in the pipe and you loose valuable exhaust scavenging thus reducing power. If you want more power, get a set of headers and high flow cats.
Gutting the pup cats is a no-no on Corvettes.

In general, I'd be surprised if people around here would see even a one horsepower gain by removing the cats on their stock Corvettes. (I'll concede that the results might be different on a non-stock car.) The smells, destruction of the environment, and inspection laws make removing cats in the quest for horsepower a downright stupid choice.

Besides ... "Give a hoot! Don't pollute!"

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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
If we are talking about stock engines or bolt ons I would def keep the cats. If we are talking about boost, high RPMs, bigger power then the cats will restrict quite a bit. heads/cam will be fine with hfc's but big cubes, etc should toss em.
I still have hi-flow cats....

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I have High Flow Cats on my LG Pro Long Tube Headers.
LG's told me that I would only gain 2-3rwhp by removing them.


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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
I still have hi-flow cars....
you're only making 577rwhp, i am making over 700.... i'm not running cats so they are worth over 120 rwhp, right? lol, apples and oranges.
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