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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Looking at the AFR 205 heads for a TSP 228r. Read about so many combination's what would work for me? The car is an 02 Z06 it isn't a DD mostly fair weather, I autox about 3 times a yr. Im looking for more low end grunt and some more fun on the street. Suggestions on keeping it the 66cc or mill lower and head gasket.

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Id definitely mill to 60-62cc. Shouldnt be any issues. Use GM MLS gaskets and 92-94 octane if you can.
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I would check the piston to valve clearance and go from there
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use AFRs 228R
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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why not go a custom grind?
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Here is my experience, hopefully you can get some guidance from it. My heads had the chambers reworked by Tony Mamo. He was shooting for a 62cc final chamber size. His work removes about 2cc of material from the chamber so that the final mill is equivalent to a 60cc mill for the standard head. I am running the AFR 6016 cam, 224/228 on a 114 LSA. My intake PTV was slightly under minimums and my exhaust was fine. I would think the 228 would be OK with a 62cc chamber (from a mill standpoint, that is 0.012" less material removed then mine) but as mill more the PTV could become an issue. I would speak directly with Tony, he has done enough he can likely tell you where it will come out. I would also get an adjustable timing set like the Cloyes Hex-Adjust so you can degree the cam. With your cam selection, you are not going to believe the response of the motor when it is done.
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Originally Posted by algZO6
why not go a custom grind?
AFRs 228r is designed to work with the AFR 205 heads.
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Thanks for the info. I've tried pm'ing Tony and emailing AFR unfortunately haven't got any responses why I went to the Forum. Don't have the time during their working hours to call which would be best option.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
AFRs 228r is designed to work with the AFR 205 heads.
i thought the op was talking about tsp's 228 single pattern. i believe the afr's cam is a 224/228.
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Originally Posted by biggums46
Thanks for the info. I've tried pm'ing Tony and emailing AFR unfortunately haven't got any responses why I went to the Forum. Don't have the time during their working hours to call which would be best option.
The 224/228 and AFR 205 heads will give you what you want.
I have this package for $2758 to your door or $2858 with the heads milled. We will also grind you a custom cam for the same money.
Having Tony work the heads will cost more money and to be honest with your goals you don't need it, the 205 will perform great out of the box. You can call me anytime, due to our engine customers around the world I make myself available 24x 6 1/2.
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I have read about the AFR 224/228 and defiantly haven't ruled that cam out.
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Originally Posted by biggums46
I have read about the AFR 224/228 and defiantly haven't ruled that cam out.
Any LS1 street cam between 224 and 230.. you will not feel any difference as the power difference will be minimal. 5-8 hp.
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Originally Posted by wantbluC6
Any LS1 street cam between 224 and 230.. you will not feel any difference as the power difference will be minimal. 5-8 hp.
There alot of LS1s making over 400 rwp with a 224 cam and heads. And even then its not the high number, its the power across the sheet that makes these kind of cams great. Sure there are much bigger cams that put down huge numbers, but not everyone wants a drag car.

I only had a symetrical 221 575 112 in my 98 and the difference was very noticable.

I actually have a higher lift 228 cam on the way for my Z06

Edit- OH, I see you may have meant the difference between a 224 and a 230. Yea, the difference between the two isnt big numbers, but it does shift the usable power up or down a bit

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Originally Posted by biggums46
I have read about the AFR 224/228 and defiantly haven't ruled that cam out.
I like mine
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
I like mine
You degree it when you installed it or dot to dot?
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Originally Posted by wantbluC6
Any LS1 street cam between 224 and 230.. you will not feel any difference as the power difference will be minimal. 5-8 hp.
You do feel the SOTP torque difference and acceleration
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^^ Very true, you might make more peak but at the cost of low and mid.. what rpm do you want you power served at is the question. then you have to look at the added stress of the higher rpm peaking cam and weigh out the options while looking at whats more dependable given the current short-block.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
You do feel the SOTP torque difference and acceleration
I think everyone misread me. I meant if one installed a 224 cam , then a 224/228 cam a 224/230 cam with similar lobe sep. You couldnt tell from anyone of those grinds. Dyno would be very close. Now any of those cams from a STOCK LS1 or STOCK LS6 cam is a huge difference in power and SOTP.
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Originally Posted by biggums46
You degree it when you installed it or dot to dot?
I degreed it when installed. PTV was tight due to amount of milling so I couldn't risk not knowing where things were set.
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