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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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VIBRIATION dampr bad so while its apart gonna cam up no headers, 410 gear, 6 speed trans, 3300lb , tune, recommended cam xr277hr .567 in .570 ex 224o in 228o ex @.50 112 lsa ....anyone use this cam???
w stock cam cool day 115 to 116 MPH BEST 118 MPH WHAT CAN I EXPECT PS NEW SPRING TOO .WHAT ELSE DO I NEED? THANKSS




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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Personally, I think you'd be happier with something that has bgigger bumps on it especially with a 6 speed and 4.10 ratio.... don't forget the pushrods, timing chain set, oil pump, gaskets, etc etc..check with some tuners... Vengence etc.... take their recommendation!
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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I agree with 410 gear I would go bigger as well. I have a comp 224/230with stock 3.42 gears. I love this cam for a street car, it drives very close to stock, makes big torque and pulls to 6850 (thats where my rev limiter is set). I make 380ft lbs of torque from 2500rpm thru 6300rpm, peak at 412, and put down 438rwhp.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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The cam that Comp recommended is kind of a standard, "go to" cam for general street use. It'll have a mild lope, and it's easy to tune. Depending on how streetable you want, with your 4.10s could use something like a 234-238 or so cam, with around .6 lift. Why no headers?
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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The cam that Comp recommended is kind of a standard, "go to" cam for general street use. It'll have a mild lope, and it's easy to tune. Depending on how streetable you want, with your 4.10s could use something like a 234-238 or so cam, with around .6 lift. Why no headers?
was always happy with cars performance hence no headers which would have been my firstbig bolt on however with base camaros making 300 hp and mercedes benz station wagons STOCK running low 12's I now feel the need for more power and since ba lot will be apart to replace damper figured do cam at this pointbut I have to be careful what I choose ,even though headers will be my next mod there is a lot of uncertainty with regards to $$$ and no funds for that mod in the immediate futurebut I think I would be way safe with something in the238o to 242o at around .600 lift maybe a little more duration on thew ex. side as stock ex manifolds will be on in the near future whaddaya think any one run a cam like this w/no headers? or should i go a litle smaller say234 238?
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:31 AM
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the comp 224/228 567/570 112 would be a rocket with 4.10s Great low end power


I run a comp 224/224 581/581 112+4 and thinking of going to a smaller cam for better acceleration
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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Nothing wrong with the cam they recommended, especially without headers.

Bigger cams pick up hp, but don't pick up all that much torque compared to a good 224 street cam.

Most people over-cam their cars these days.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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I too am doing a cam and no headers on my Z06. I wanted the torque benefits of a cam without having to make my car excessively loud. When I contacted several big vendors and cam makers all the recomendations were to stay under the mid 230s durations. Anything bigger may flow more than the stock manifolds can move in the upper RPM. I got recommendations of 224/232, 228/232, 224/228, 228/228.

I ended up going with a higher lift version of the 228R (228 .604 112) banking on the fact that the newer Ls6 manifolds flow a little better. I'll be installing it sometime in the next few weeks
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I like their suggestion as well.
I'm running the same cam as AU N EGL in my LS6.
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I don't know if you're planning on a DIY install, or if you're gonna pay someone. It seems that budget is a big concern, so I say you want to make the right decision on your new cam. If your future plans include more mods for power, then plan your cam choice with this in mind. If you just want to pick up some easy HP since you're changing pulleys anyway, then, go with something fairly small, like the one Comp recommends. Remember, you SHOULD get new valvesprings and pushrods too, in addition to other stuff that'd be good to upgrade, like oil pump, timing chain, and lifters. Try to look ahead at your car's future, and don't do jobs twice. GL.
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Without long tubes you probably won't be seeing all the power this cam can make. So I would say stick with this or a smaller cam. If you plan on headers in the future then a bigger cam would be a wise investment.

Just remember, an engine is essentially an air pump. It can't ingest more air than it can get rid of. The lack of headers will be a large limitation. With the right exhaust, they don't have to make the car overly loud either.
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Originally Posted by K RIPPER
VIBRIATION dampr bad so while its apart gonna cam up no headers, 410 gear, 6 speed trans, 3300lb , tune, recommended cam xr277hr .567 in .570 ex 224o in 228o ex @.50 112 lsa ....anyone use this cam???
w stock cam cool day 115 to 116 MPH BEST 118 MPH WHAT CAN I EXPECT PS NEW SPRING TOO .WHAT ELSE DO I NEED? THANKSS




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That cam is a a typical street grind. Its going to have a nice nastaglic idle "loppy idle" but it shouldnt be too radical. I have a cam that though not exact may give you an idea how yours may sound. I think it may sound similar to mine because you have 112 degree LSA where I have a 115 degree LSA but I have more duration then you. I think the difference in LSA vs duration will cause the cams to sound similar. I guess I got a little more lift but again all in all I believe your cam will sound similar to mine. Ps. you should get a set of long tube headers.

heres my cam specs and a short video at idle

Valve Lift .578 .592
Lobe Lift .340 .348
Adv Dur. 284 292
Dur @ .050 233 241

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XLph4WlpA4

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Originally Posted by 99C5JA1
Without long tubes you probably won't be seeing all the power this cam can make. So I would say stick with this or a smaller cam. If you plan on headers in the future then a bigger cam would be a wise investment.

Just remember, an engine is essentially an air pump. It can't ingest more air than it can get rid of. The lack of headers will be a large limitation. With the right exhaust, they don't have to make the car overly loud either.
I agree, unless you have plans of headers down the road or just want the sound, you would make better avg power with something like a 218/230 116...look at the specs of others who have a cam w/o headers, Patg is the only one I know of to make over 400rwhp and I believe it was a 222/226 115 with free flowing exhaust(no cats/aftermarket mufflers)...the reason a big cam w/o headers is a poor combination is because the late IVC causes low end loss that you would normally make up for with the longer primaries of headers, then up top you can't expel the burnt gasses fast enough causing an inefficient combustion that again robs power

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Originally Posted by 1BADGTM
That cam is a a typical street grind. Its going to have a nice nastaglic idle "loppy idle" but it shouldnt be too radical. I have a cam that though not exact may give you an idea how yours may sound. I think it may sound similar to mine because you have 112 degree LSA where I have a 115 degree LSA but I have more duration then you. I think the difference in LSA vs duration will cause the cams to sound similar. I guess I got a little more lift but again all in all I believe your cam will sound similar to mine. Ps. you should get a set of long tube headers.

heres my cam specs and a short video at idle

Valve Lift .578 .592
Lobe Lift .340 .348
Adv Dur. 284 292
Dur @ .050 233 241

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XLph4WlpA4
even with your wider lsa you still have more overlap(7*) than the 224/228 112(2*) so your's will still be a little bit nastier sounding
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Originally Posted by K RIPPER
VIBRIATION dampr bad so while its apart gonna cam up no headers, 410 gear, 6 speed trans, 3300lb , tune, recommended cam xr277hr .567 in .570 ex 224o in 228o ex @.50 112 lsa ....anyone use this cam???
w stock cam cool day 115 to 116 MPH BEST 118 MPH WHAT CAN I EXPECT PS NEW SPRING TOO .WHAT ELSE DO I NEED? THANKSS




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I ran the COMP XR277HR in my old combo. The specs on my cam were 224/228 .534 .537 112 with 1.8 ratio rockers = .564 .569 lift. It was a good street/strip cam with decent overall power. My best trap speed was 122 mph (Midwest region) with a LS6 intake and LT's. You will notice a nice improvement in performance over the stock cam with a obvious rumble that says the engine is no longer stock. If you don't intend to do a lot of additional mods then this cam will definitely serve your purpose as a good go fast street car. Also,COMP 918 valve springs,COMP OEM lifters,hardened push rods,LS2 timing chain or better,and a ported LS6 oil pump will do the trick....it's only money you know.
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