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Old May 17, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Okay all you engine builder guru's....

I'n considering building a stroker 427 for my FRC. I've done some research and have noticed a lot "stroker" motors built with LQ9 / LQ4 6.0 iron blocks.
My question is can you do the same with a 6.0 aluminum block ?

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Well think of it like this.........GM makes a LS-7 engine..right???
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Old May 17, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Well think of it like this.........GM makes a LS-7 engine..right???
This is true, but is it the same 6.0 aluminum block ??
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You can. There used to be some concern about the sleeving process for the aluminum blocks, but those problems have been addressed. Go with a builder with a good rep and you should have no trouble. As I recall the slightly smaller 406-408 engines were a lot less in price.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Check out the thread by member WKMCD who is not running a sleeved LS2 built by Virginia Speed. Lots of good information, photos, etc. From what I understand you are much better off sleeving an LS2 block because you will get better piston support at bottom of the stroke. Its pretty much a bolt in as well since you don't have to deal with the dry sump issue either as you do with the LS7.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Check out the thread by member WKMCD who is not running a sleeved LS2 built by Virginia Speed. Lots of good information, photos, etc. From what I understand you are much better off sleeving an LS2 block because you will get better piston support at bottom of the stroke. Its pretty much a bolt in as well since you don't have to deal with the dry sump issue either as you do with the LS7.
Good idea. Does the LS3 block have the same issue? I know lots of stroker builds are using this block.
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I've got a sleeved LS3 (454ci) being built for my FRC. I currently have a 402 based on a LS2 block.

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I don't believe you can bore a sleeved engine, but you can hone it. I'd give TSP a call since they do sell a 427 short or long block based off an LS3 and ask them the specifics.
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Originally Posted by Bob K
I've got a sleeved LS3 (454ci) being built for my FRC. I currently have a 402 based on a LS2 block.

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WOW! What's the bore and stroke gonna be on that big boy, Bob?
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The guys doing them with an iron 6.0l block are overboreing then .060"+ and running a 4.125" stroke. Not ideal as a iron block has the shortest sleeve by a small amound to it's aluminum brother and piston rock at BDC can cause problems over time. People do it all the time though, but it's hit or miss as to the longevity ov the build.

Most would only take a 6.0l aluminum ls2 block .020" over though some have gone .030" without problems. Sleeving is the best way to go bigger, but it's a decent amount out of pocket.
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Okay, so with all this said.... an LS2 or LS3 block would be the way yo go ??

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Find a good used ls2 block and have it dry sleeved. Stronger sleeves than a ls7 and close to the same price. Check with some of the vendors.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
WOW! What's the bore and stroke gonna be on that big boy, Bob?
It's an ERL setup. The bore is 4.185"

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Originally Posted by Sinister-one
This is true, but is it the same 6.0 aluminum block ??
NO. two different blocks
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I would rather just buy the short block and have it shipped right to my door. It depends what your time is worth and if you have a local builder who can do sleeve work. If you have to pay for truck freight back and forth you may well just pay to have the short block shipped once.

If you buy a new block from GM, you still have to machine it. They don't come ready to assemble. It needs the full machine work. Sleeving is something special and not all machine shops can do this right.
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Originally Posted by Bob K
I've got a sleeved LS3 (454ci) being built for my FRC. I currently have a 402 based on a LS2 block.

Bob K.
Are you currently selling your 402?
I was about to put money into one myself lol
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Are you currently selling your 402?
I was about to put money into one myself lol
I don't know if I'm going to keep my 402 shortblock or not. It's only got 2500 miles on it. I'm thinking about putting it in my '07 vert when the warranty runs out.

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Originally Posted by Bob K
I don't know if I'm going to keep my 402 shortblock or not. It's only got 2500 miles on it. I'm thinking about putting it in my '07 vert when the warranty runs out.

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Damn lol, if its forged I'm sorry but Ill have to buy it
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Originally Posted by slow ride
Find a good used ls2 block and have it dry sleeved. Stronger sleeves than a ls7 and close to the same price. Check with some of the vendors.
The LS2 block is the 05 and newer block, correct ?

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Originally Posted by slow ride
Find a good used ls2 block and have it dry sleeved. Stronger sleeves than a ls7 and close to the same price. Check with some of the vendors.
I thought the LS7 was way more expensive?
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