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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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So just got off the phone with texas speed and the rep. said:

-I cant use an LS2 block for a 402 stroker motor if its been bored .030?Cause he said its "trash"?
-Using a big cam (like MS4 or bigger) with FI wont help with power,and I will actually make MORE power with a smaller cam?That using a big
cam is the opposite of whats right?

I was gonna ask about what pistons to use but didnt have a chance cause he hung up

So I figured Id just double check with you guys if those two things are true.

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if the LS2 block has been PREVIOUSLY been bored out, then IIRC NO you cant use it for a 402.

yes smaller cams work better with FI

Bigger cams are for NA too a point - Too big of a cam and you gain nothing.

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Damn, well thanks for the info on the boring...

and I literally just read a post yesterday where a member said that big heads and a big cam WITH FI yields alottt more power...

he talked about some dude running an MS4 with FI


Thanks for the quick response btw
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i thing the FI & cam issue kinda depends on the type of FI you're using. i can see a bigger cam working better/gaining more with a top-mount than with a turbo or centri, but even then, you still have to have good timing on the valve events to retain your boost
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Damn, well thanks for the info on the boring...

and I literally just read a post yesterday where a member said that big heads and a big cam WITH FI yields alottt more power...

he talked about some dude running an MS4 with FI


Thanks for the quick response btw
Instead of relying on forum BS, why not contact ECS, Corvettes of Westchester, etc. Tell them what your goals are, and find out what is possible.
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Better then piece meal info together
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Instead of relying on forum BS, why not contact ECS, Corvettes of Westchester, etc. Tell them what your goals are, and find out what is possible.
Lol well I thought calling TSP would have been it but idk maybe it was just the way the rep. came off to me. I just felt like hearing from other people. but thanks guys
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Originally Posted by powerjunky
So just got off the phone with texas speed and the rep. said:

-I cant use an LS2 block for a 402 stroker motor if its been bored .030?Cause he said its "trash"?
-Using a big cam (like MS4 or bigger) with FI wont help with power,and I will actually make MORE power with a smaller cam?That using a big
cam is the opposite of whats right?

I was gonna ask about what pistons to use but didnt have a chance cause he hung up

So I figured Id just double check with you guys if those two things are true.

Thanks
Big cams with gigantic overlaps bleed off boost.
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Originally Posted by All_Motor_C5LS6
Big cams with gigantic overlaps bleed off boost.
Or, it pushes all the left over exhaust gasses out and fills the cylinders with a fresh clean charge. Food for thought.
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Remember some of those places SELL products and don't GIVE advice, unless you BUY right NOW from them.

Some other shops, no problem with advice.
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Or, it pushes all the left over exhaust gasses out and fills the cylinders with a fresh clean charge. Food for thought.
does not that hurt compression ?
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Remember some of those places SELL products and don't GIVE advice, unless you BUY right NOW from them.

Some other shops, no problem with advice.
See man thats such a good statement,makes me not wanna ask other people lol One reason I love this forum so much, its normally not biased


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Originally Posted by All_Motor_C5LS6
Big cams with gigantic overlaps bleed off boost.
Originally Posted by p1bz
Or, it pushes all the left over exhaust gasses out and fills the cylinders with a fresh clean charge. Food for thought.
Originally Posted by AU N EGL
does not that hurt compression ?
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I would LOVE more info on this guys, keep it going


AND

would this be the right section to ask that based on your all's knowledge here whats the real difference between the

"Callies Compstar Forged Crankshaft"
and the
"Callies Dragonslayer Crankshaft" ?

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Originally Posted by powerjunky
"Callies Compstar Forged Crankshaft"
and the
"Callies Dragonslayer Crankshaft" ?
Compstar - off shore forging
Dragonslayer - USA forging
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Compstar - off shore forging
Dragonslayer - USA forging
Thats seriously all?
"Compstar add $135"
"Dragonslayer add 475"

If it comes to that, I really dont mind the Compstar.

Btw thanks Kevin!
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Originally Posted by powerjunky
Thats seriously all?
"Compstar add $135"
"Dragonslayer add 475"

If it comes to that, I really dont mind the Compstar.

Btw thanks Kevin!
I think Callies says the Compstar is good to 1000HP or so. All finish machining is done state-side. Eagle, SCAT and a few others are off-shore forgings. I run an Eagle with no problems at all.
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Ok great, the Compstar is the $135 add on from the Eagle. I hope to be around 800, So I assume the Eagle will be fine?


Another thing is pistons? They say go with weisco pistons for boosted apps.

Whats the diff between Weisco and Diamond? And how do I determine what dish/flat top I want?

Sorry if thats too much

Thanks for the help tho, I love having threads to go back to and re-read.

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I would suggest you buy some books and do a lot of reading on building high performance LS engines before you start ordering parts for an 800 hp engine build. The questions you are asking are very basic knowledge for an engine builder. It is very important that you match the parts in the engine for your expected performance level, driving habits and power adder. You will need different pistons, camshaft, compression ratio, head gaskets, studs, etc based on naturally aspirated, centrifugal supercharger, roots supercharger, turbo, or nitrous oxide. You can't choose a piston crown/dish until you determine what compression ratio your build needs and you know what combustion chamber volume your heads will have.
Plus there is more to building an 800 hp engine that simply assembling a pile of parts. It may be time to start talking with an engine builder for this level of performance...
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785 hp engine package
http://www.schwankeshortblocks.com/s...?i=1536&c=1084


RHS Hot Rod Turn Key 502c/810hp
http://www.golenengineservice.com/en...-rod-turn-key/
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or take a trip down to VA Beach and VirginiaSpeed https://virginiaspeed.com/Engines.html
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