C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Traction Control

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:27 AM
  #1  
bontrager's Avatar
bontrager
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 707
Likes: 0
From: Murrysville PA
Default Traction Control

If I defeat the traction control option, will I have a faster acceleration in first and second gears??????

Thank you.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:52 AM
  #2  
Zogs2011's Avatar
Zogs2011
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville, FL
Default

you can but it takes practice to get the "perfect" launch
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:41 PM
  #3  
tblu92's Avatar
tblu92
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,375
Likes: 328
From: CA.
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

No just turn the button "OFF" does the same thing----I would never completely defeat the TC system---trust me TC is your friend when you least expect it--on a rainy day--hitting some gravel or sand on the road or an oil spot just at the right time during a WOT or near WOT gearshift or a launch will save your ***--- and avoid a spin-out !!
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:58 PM
  #4  
m6 c5's Avatar
m6 c5
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,809
Likes: 3
From: Yorktown Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by tblu92
No just turn the button "OFF" does the same thing----I would never completely defeat the TC system---trust me TC is your friend when you least expect it--on a rainy day--hitting some gravel or sand on the road or an oil spot just at the right time during a WOT or near WOT gearshift or a launch will save your ***--- and avoid a spin-out !!
It sure helped the other night when I hydroplaned given I would have saved it without active handling but I would have probably been really close to going on the wrong side of the road.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:17 PM
  #5  
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
Vetteman Jack
Administrator
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Veteran: Reserves
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 368,319
Likes: 24,777
From: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '25
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran
Default

You could have faster acceleration if you control the wheel spin. However, if you are talking about deleting the TC from your computer system, then I would advise against that. Just turn the system off with the push of a button.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:17 AM
  #6  
Bob Secker's Avatar
Bob Secker
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Parrish Florida
Default

I can most certainly attest to that! My system needs to have the EBCM rebuilt and I haven't had time to do that yet. The other day I was entering the interstate when it was a little wet, and when I applied some power to get out into traffic I suddenly found myself doing a 180'. Fortunately I came out of it OK and didn't or get hit by anybody. As soon as I can get the time I'm fixing the system!!
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:54 AM
  #7  
tblu92's Avatar
tblu92
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,375
Likes: 328
From: CA.
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

I agree with all--I don't care if you're Mario Andretti---Once you loose the back end of a C5's it's GONE !!! you can't save it !!
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:41 AM
  #8  
AU N EGL's Avatar
AU N EGL
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 43,084
Likes: 33
From: Raleigh / Rolesville NC
Default

Traction control in the ON position will provided you the fastest launches with the least tire spin.

If you want to go faster, get better tires.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:35 PM
  #9  
Chicago1's Avatar
Chicago1
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 12,413
Likes: 502
From: Rio Rancho NM
Default

Have you tried it in comp mode? Hold the traction control down for about 6-8 seconds.
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 12:30 AM
  #10  
wcdaniel's Avatar
wcdaniel
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
From: Bowling Green KY
Default

Originally Posted by tblu92
I agree with all--I don't care if you're Mario Andretti---Once you loose the back end of a C5's it's GONE !!! you can't save it !!
Understeer, understeer, understeer, understeer. If understeer does not catch it and you don't run out of pavement then for sure, you won't on the reversal.

I live here in Bowling Green and was lectured to by a GM Engineer when I bought my C5. It is a big change because the natural instinct is to man- handle the spin with a lot of oversteer input to attempt to halt the tail-happy slide. Unfortunately the C5 will whip back the other side and off we go. The whirly-bird trip begins.

Which was my excuse for my 'practicing' on the cut-through road that goes in front of the NCM. Somehow my wife has never understood the sense in actually taking the time to learn how to handle the '03 C5 M6.

All I know is, practice makes for big smiles and some serious pucker-factor...........

Last edited by wcdaniel; Oct 8, 2011 at 12:31 AM. Reason: fat-fingers
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 06:46 PM
  #11  
bontrager's Avatar
bontrager
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 707
Likes: 0
From: Murrysville PA
Default

Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Traction control in the ON position will provided you the fastest launches with the least tire spin.

If you want to go faster, get better tires.
Please explain further; won't the traction control limit wheel spin/speed and therefore launch/acceleration???????

Thank you
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 02:46 PM
  #12  
Bikerbob61's Avatar
Bikerbob61
Advanced
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Southport, NC
Default

Originally Posted by Chicago1
Have you tried it in comp mode? Hold the traction control down for about 6-8 seconds.
I've never heard of "comp mode".....can you explain further?
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:09 PM
  #13  
m6 c5's Avatar
m6 c5
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,809
Likes: 3
From: Yorktown Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by Bikerbob61
I've never heard of "comp mode".....can you explain further?
Competition mode turns your traction control off and leaves active handling on so that power is not cut when the tires start to spin but if you start to lose the back end then it will apply the brakes to get the car going in the intended direction. It is very useful when racing as it helps keep your car under control if things start to go south but wont cut the power like it does when both systems are on.
I dont think 97's and 98's have and Im not sure when they switched over to the new system where you can disengage it on the fly instead of having to sit still.
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:17 PM
  #14  
Bikerbob61's Avatar
Bikerbob61
Advanced
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Southport, NC
Default

Originally Posted by m6 c5
Competition mode turns your traction control off and leaves active handling on so that power is not cut when the tires start to spin but if you start to lose the back end then it will apply the brakes to get the car going in the intended direction. It is very useful when racing as it helps keep your car under control if things start to go south but wont cut the power like it does when both systems are on.
I dont think 97's and 98's have and Im not sure when they switched over to the new system where you can disengage it on the fly instead of having to sit still.
thanks for quick response and of course......the info
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 02:49 PM
  #15  
tblu92's Avatar
tblu92
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,375
Likes: 328
From: CA.
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Traction control in the ON position will provided you the fastest launches with the least tire spin.

If you want to go faster, get better tires.

Please explain further; won't the traction control limit wheel spin/speed and therefore launch/acceleration???????

I think it all depends on the car--Mods--A4 or T6--gear ratio--

Too many variables to deffanately say which is better---The ONLY way to know for sure is to try it BOTH ways several times and take an average of on/off and compare
for example---If you have an A4 (lowly stalled or stock) with a 2.73 rear ratio---tire spin shouldn't be an issue so it would be better to drive it with the TC OFF---
Simply put--you have to weigh wether the ET you save by NOT spinning the tires is more than the ET saved by spinnng the tires and getting into the powerband quicker----
Spinning the tires takes time and costs you ET
Traction control Also--takes time by liminting power and slowing down the launch into the powerband---
So it all depends on the application
On My 400 RWHP 3000 stalled car with excellent traction--I have tried it both ways--
High 11's with TC off and little tire spin
12.20's with TC ON--No spin but tons of timing removed and lazy at launch AND at the 1-2 shift it again will cost ET as it gurgles and spits as it shifts whenit senses ust the tiniest of spin---

Last edited by tblu92; Oct 12, 2011 at 12:31 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:09 PM
  #16  
WKMCD's Avatar
WKMCD
Race Director
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 13,760
Likes: 75
From: Haymarket VA
Default

If you've ever logged what's going on you'd be surprised how early timing starts getting pulled. In my car it's long before you can detect wheel spin. My car is definitely faster/stronger with traction control off. I don't drive around like that but it was interesting to see with EFI Live.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2011 | 12:33 PM
  #17  
tblu92's Avatar
tblu92
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,375
Likes: 328
From: CA.
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

Originally Posted by WKMCD
If you've ever logged what's going on you'd be surprised how early timing starts getting pulled. In my car it's long before you can detect wheel spin. My car is definitely faster/stronger with traction control off. I don't drive around like that but it was interesting to see with EFI Live.
YES the STOCK TC system is so SENSITIVE you are 100% correct !!!! Pulls too soon---and too much !!!
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2011 | 02:50 PM
  #18  
m6 c5's Avatar
m6 c5
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,809
Likes: 3
From: Yorktown Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by tblu92
YES the STOCK TC system is so SENSITIVE you are 100% correct !!!! Pulls too soon---and too much !!!
Yea its almost like hitting a wall when it kicks in.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Traction Control





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:55 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE