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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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If I defeat the traction control option, will I have a faster acceleration in first and second gears??????

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you can but it takes practice to get the "perfect" launch
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No just turn the button "OFF" does the same thing----I would never completely defeat the TC system---trust me TC is your friend when you least expect it--on a rainy day--hitting some gravel or sand on the road or an oil spot just at the right time during a WOT or near WOT gearshift or a launch will save your ***--- and avoid a spin-out !!
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No just turn the button "OFF" does the same thing----I would never completely defeat the TC system---trust me TC is your friend when you least expect it--on a rainy day--hitting some gravel or sand on the road or an oil spot just at the right time during a WOT or near WOT gearshift or a launch will save your ***--- and avoid a spin-out !!
It sure helped the other night when I hydroplaned given I would have saved it without active handling but I would have probably been really close to going on the wrong side of the road.
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You could have faster acceleration if you control the wheel spin. However, if you are talking about deleting the TC from your computer system, then I would advise against that. Just turn the system off with the push of a button.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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I can most certainly attest to that! My system needs to have the EBCM rebuilt and I haven't had time to do that yet. The other day I was entering the interstate when it was a little wet, and when I applied some power to get out into traffic I suddenly found myself doing a 180'. Fortunately I came out of it OK and didn't or get hit by anybody. As soon as I can get the time I'm fixing the system!!
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I agree with all--I don't care if you're Mario Andretti---Once you loose the back end of a C5's it's GONE !!! you can't save it !!
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Traction control in the ON position will provided you the fastest launches with the least tire spin.

If you want to go faster, get better tires.
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Have you tried it in comp mode? Hold the traction control down for about 6-8 seconds.
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Originally Posted by tblu92
I agree with all--I don't care if you're Mario Andretti---Once you loose the back end of a C5's it's GONE !!! you can't save it !!
Understeer, understeer, understeer, understeer. If understeer does not catch it and you don't run out of pavement then for sure, you won't on the reversal.

I live here in Bowling Green and was lectured to by a GM Engineer when I bought my C5. It is a big change because the natural instinct is to man- handle the spin with a lot of oversteer input to attempt to halt the tail-happy slide. Unfortunately the C5 will whip back the other side and off we go. The whirly-bird trip begins.

Which was my excuse for my 'practicing' on the cut-through road that goes in front of the NCM. Somehow my wife has never understood the sense in actually taking the time to learn how to handle the '03 C5 M6.

All I know is, practice makes for big smiles and some serious pucker-factor...........

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Traction control in the ON position will provided you the fastest launches with the least tire spin.

If you want to go faster, get better tires.
Please explain further; won't the traction control limit wheel spin/speed and therefore launch/acceleration???????

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Originally Posted by Chicago1
Have you tried it in comp mode? Hold the traction control down for about 6-8 seconds.
I've never heard of "comp mode".....can you explain further?
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I've never heard of "comp mode".....can you explain further?
Competition mode turns your traction control off and leaves active handling on so that power is not cut when the tires start to spin but if you start to lose the back end then it will apply the brakes to get the car going in the intended direction. It is very useful when racing as it helps keep your car under control if things start to go south but wont cut the power like it does when both systems are on.
I dont think 97's and 98's have and Im not sure when they switched over to the new system where you can disengage it on the fly instead of having to sit still.
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Originally Posted by m6 c5
Competition mode turns your traction control off and leaves active handling on so that power is not cut when the tires start to spin but if you start to lose the back end then it will apply the brakes to get the car going in the intended direction. It is very useful when racing as it helps keep your car under control if things start to go south but wont cut the power like it does when both systems are on.
I dont think 97's and 98's have and Im not sure when they switched over to the new system where you can disengage it on the fly instead of having to sit still.
thanks for quick response and of course......the info
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Traction control in the ON position will provided you the fastest launches with the least tire spin.

If you want to go faster, get better tires.

Please explain further; won't the traction control limit wheel spin/speed and therefore launch/acceleration???????

I think it all depends on the car--Mods--A4 or T6--gear ratio--

Too many variables to deffanately say which is better---The ONLY way to know for sure is to try it BOTH ways several times and take an average of on/off and compare
for example---If you have an A4 (lowly stalled or stock) with a 2.73 rear ratio---tire spin shouldn't be an issue so it would be better to drive it with the TC OFF---
Simply put--you have to weigh wether the ET you save by NOT spinning the tires is more than the ET saved by spinnng the tires and getting into the powerband quicker----
Spinning the tires takes time and costs you ET
Traction control Also--takes time by liminting power and slowing down the launch into the powerband---
So it all depends on the application
On My 400 RWHP 3000 stalled car with excellent traction--I have tried it both ways--
High 11's with TC off and little tire spin
12.20's with TC ON--No spin but tons of timing removed and lazy at launch AND at the 1-2 shift it again will cost ET as it gurgles and spits as it shifts whenit senses ust the tiniest of spin---

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If you've ever logged what's going on you'd be surprised how early timing starts getting pulled. In my car it's long before you can detect wheel spin. My car is definitely faster/stronger with traction control off. I don't drive around like that but it was interesting to see with EFI Live.
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If you've ever logged what's going on you'd be surprised how early timing starts getting pulled. In my car it's long before you can detect wheel spin. My car is definitely faster/stronger with traction control off. I don't drive around like that but it was interesting to see with EFI Live.
YES the STOCK TC system is so SENSITIVE you are 100% correct !!!! Pulls too soon---and too much !!!
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Originally Posted by tblu92
YES the STOCK TC system is so SENSITIVE you are 100% correct !!!! Pulls too soon---and too much !!!
Yea its almost like hitting a wall when it kicks in.
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