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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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Mitch I am proud of you Grasshopper. Thats a great gain and imagine how much you saved on labor. Basicly you put a Toyota Corolla under the hood for extra umph. HAHA Catch wait to see the thing pull on the track.

And I have that set of TI's for you as well. HAHA
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Congrats on the mods and increase! Did you do any porting of the heads or did you leave them stock? Also, what compression ratio are you at with the heads?
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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heads are as cast. unmilled, unported. From what I understand that gives a 10.5:1 CR (or whatever a stock C5 Z06 is)
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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I'm sure there's a reference to not using a manual in there somewhere. Hopefully Lucky will point it out. Probably something about not using old O2 sensors too.
I guess you can feel pretty good about yourself taking a shot at lucky, considering he did offer advice in your thread, and said advice was correct and valid. If you think using old parts on a new build is cool, you are in the minority here. I believe you installed spark plugs with 90,000 miles on them on a fresh build? There is cheap, and there is stupid.

The only thing this thread reveals, is how truly forgiving modern engines have become(with regard to assembly, no timing to figure out, etc), and how any person with half a brain, can use the internet to work on their car. When in doubt, just start a thread in a car forum, and have everyone point out your mistakes. You seem to extol the virtues of not having a service manual, and would rather be cheap, cut corners, and make mistakes. Then again, when soo many people are willing to spoon feed you on the forum, why spend the money on a service manual?

I doubt the service manual has a warning or step, to advise the reader the importance of keeping wiring/plastic connectors away from the exhaust. I think that is just common sense.

Now everyone can continue congratulating you, on such a good job.
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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"Poor car. It went back together, just as filthy as it came apart. What a shame."

Talk about the kettle calling the pot black when it comes to jabs......
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I guess you can feel pretty good about yourself taking a shot at lucky, considering he did offer advice in your thread, and said advice was correct and valid. If you think using old parts on a new build is cool, you are in the minority here. I believe you installed spark plugs with 90,000 miles on them on a fresh build? There is cheap, and there is stupid.

The only thing this thread reveals, is how truly forgiving modern engines have become(with regard to assembly, no timing to figure out, etc), and how any person with half a brain, can use the internet to work on their car. When in doubt, just start a thread in a car forum, and have everyone point out your mistakes. You seem to extol the virtues of not having a service manual, and would rather be cheap, cut corners, and make mistakes. Then again, when soo many people are willing to spoon feed you on the forum, why spend the money on a service manual?

I doubt the service manual has a warning or step, to advise the reader the importance of keeping wiring/plastic connectors away from the exhaust. I think that is just common sense.

Now everyone can continue congratulating you, on such a good job.
Wow. and I though Evil Twin was gone.... He's just reincarnate!

I'm not sure if the critical posters are simply rich, or something else? I have two corvettes - not that I'm wealthy - I just know how to work the system. One of those ways is to work on my cars myself. This is not my area of expertise or training - it's a hobby that I enjoy. By training - I'm a chemist. not alot of overlap here.

If you want to replace more parts than me, that's fine. I have no issue with you spending your money on whatever you deem necessary.

The point of the forum is to gain knowledge from others. The backhanded condescending slaps associated with kernels of information is simply for the rise of the poster. i.e. stepping on the backs of others to rise above. If it gets your rocks off - so be it. In my opinion unwelcome snide comments simply detracts from the whole experience. How does "you're way over your head" or "there is cheap, and there is stupid" help someone fix their car?

I took the car apart, threw in some middle of the road parts, put it back together again and had it tuned. This is not rocket science. To berate me in the process because I didn't buy a manual almost sounds like you publish the manual and are miffed about lost revenue.

Feel free to avoid posting in my threads.

Knowledge is great. Without delivery, it's simply wasted. Tech knowledge 9; bedside manner 2.

IF ANYONE ELSE AGREES WITN ME SIMPLY POST A BELOW

Maybe I'm a minority. Let the masses speak!
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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i havent followed the whole thread, but i agree with what you just said. although if you really re-used spark plugs, thats kinda
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 05:54 AM
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This post was an inspiration! I loved it! With 154K on my engine, your thread answered alot of questions and gave me a good idea if what is involved in a project like this.
There are a lot of goofballs out there that seem to lurk around and have the urge to put thier worthless coments in.
Nice writeup, good input from others (mostly), great pics! Thanks for sharing and taking the time to give some insight into freshening up our powerplant!
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I don’t know who pissed in 1999 TRC’s corn flakes that morning but it is just a typical post from the Corvette Forum Clique. It seems there is a group who must comment negatively on another’s post or just point out the folly of the posters actions as gauged against the forum’s “experts”. I have seen new posters driven away from the forum by such actions. It is evident the “mob mentality” is in full force here as when one of the forum “experts” takes the initial shot it is followed quickly by the horde of “expert wannabes” who do so in overt adulation and with the hopes of gaining favor of the “experts”. What is most sad is that some of these “experts” are in fact experts. The sum of their knowledge is probably an order of magnitude above the rest of us. If they were only open to being a mentor and coach rather than a vindictive Corvette God willing to strike down anyone who would dare challenge their conventional wisdom or even worse attempt to modify their Corvette without first gaining the approval of the “experts”. Seems a number of the experts are just retirees unhappy they are no longer in the heat of battle and have morphed into that knowledge rich but cantankerous old curmudgeon with no patience for educating. Or those who will share but must remind all that this is the 1001 time they have “had” to do so and they are tired of repeating themselves. Well then, don’t, just pass and don’t comment. So I just stay back and read the posts, try to weed through the self gratifying and pompous bull crap and try to gather those nuggets of valid and useful information for my own education. Oh and for those who may be wondering, I am old, my Corvette is my hobby and my own “expertise” resides in another realm. Anyway Mitch congratulations on your mods and I for one have learned through your experience and the input of others, even the “experts”.
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Originally Posted by 1999_TRC
I guess you can feel pretty good about yourself taking a shot at lucky, considering he did offer advice in your thread, and said advice was correct and valid. If you think using old parts on a new build is cool, you are in the minority here. I believe you installed spark plugs with 90,000 miles on them on a fresh build? There is cheap, and there is stupid.

The only thing this thread reveals, is how truly forgiving modern engines have become(with regard to assembly, no timing to figure out, etc), and how any person with half a brain, can use the internet to work on their car. When in doubt, just start a thread in a car forum, and have everyone point out your mistakes. You seem to extol the virtues of not having a service manual, and would rather be cheap, cut corners, and make mistakes. Then again, when soo many people are willing to spoon feed you on the forum, why spend the money on a service manual?

I doubt the service manual has a warning or step, to advise the reader the importance of keeping wiring/plastic connectors away from the exhaust. I think that is just common sense.

Now everyone can continue congratulating you, on such a good job.
get the F*^& outta here freaking troll, i love the thread OP, keep up the good work man.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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Mitch this is an ansom post with great pictures and learning experience. I did the same thing
with my 98 coup and 100k on the clock. Came out with 400 rwhp for a A4 and no problems.
I have since installed a RPM trans and rebuilt the TT. I turn 12.4 in the 1/4 and am presently
Installing Nitrous to get me in the 11's. The lower end is still stock and will take a 100 shot.
I do agree with you and the forum is a learning experience for all. Thanks for your posts.
Randy
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Thanks for the Info.
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405hp/380tq
looks like between me and bill, we were pretty close on the guess
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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275 RWHP LMAO

Realistically,,,, 410RWHP 390 Tq Bet is ON!
Yep,,,, pretty close. I'M planning a similar build for a friend.
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Yep,,,, pretty close. I'M planning a similar build for a friend.
winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Pretty reasonable cam for the street. It's a little edgy to let you know it has a cam and the power comes on everywhere. There's no low end loss and the fuel econ is untouched. I drove roundtrip about 200 miles yesterday and the DIC says 31 mpg. (which is always 10% over.)

Still 28 mpg is amazing.

There's almost no idle shake - just a hint.

The cats won't stay hot with the headers and so the idle smells bad. I did put new O2 sensors after the burnt wire bit - which helped alot. I don't think those originals ever worked after the mods.

I wonder what power hit I'd take with the manifolds and stock H pipe. (It's too much effort to change anyway)
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Congrats on the build. Great thread.
Ignore the a#$h**les and let them stew in their own hatred.

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Are you concerned with the SMOG visual and having LT's?
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