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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Good day everyone. Can someone tell me what the model number would be for these wires for my 98 coupe and tell me how would you rate them against the MSD 8.5 wires?

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Good day everyone. Can someone tell me what the model number would be for these wires for my 98 coupe and tell me how would you rate them against the MSD 8.5 wires?

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They will not make one ounce of difference.
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i just put on taylor wires. not the 10.4 but they are piece of ***** imo. i'll never buy another set. i pulled off my msd's without any problems, and put my taylors on. drove a few hundred miles. went to put boot covers on and first one i tried to pull of broke in half. yes i know how to remove wires. i consider these to be crap. i'll stick with hot wires or msd's
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i just put on taylor wires. not the 10.4 but they are piece of ***** imo. i'll never buy another set. i pulled off my msd's without any problems, and put my taylors on. drove a few hundred miles. went to put boot covers on and first one i tried to pull of broke in half. yes i know how to remove wires. i consider these to be crap. i'll stick with hot wires or msd's
Magnecore KV85s work well for me. It's what they do. It's ALL they do.

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so, would you guys recommend I pick up a set of MSDs?

LoneStarFRC: I looked at those but have no clue how much they cost and have never heard of them.
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Why not GMPP wires for $58 from GM Parts House?
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I would not recommend msd wires as a lot of people have had trouble with them. The GMPP wires are a great choice and fit right in the factory heat shields.
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so, would you guys recommend I pick up a set of MSDs?

LoneStarFRC: I looked at those but have no clue how much they cost and have never heard of them.
Google: Magnecor KV85 and browse. Available from a number of distributors and been around for a number of years. They don't try to be all things to all people. All they make are plug wires. Very good ones.
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Google: Magnecor KV85 and browse. Available from a number of distributors and been around for a number of years. They don't try to be all things to all people. All they make are plug wires. Very good ones.
I love PLUG WIRE WARs!!

Here are some things that I learned about plug wires after having had to deal with them on the LS engine since early 97.

Plug Wires,, NO MATTER WHAT BRAND,,, will NOT make any additional power. PERIOD! If your current wires are broken, a new set of wires will RESTORE what ever HP/performance that was being sacrificed by damaged plug wires. DO NOT fall for any HP 'INCREASE" by snake oil high dollar wires!!

If your stock OEM LS1 wires are doing their job, ,, Thats as good as plug wires get! Hell, the wires are what? Eight inches long??

HOWEVER,,,,,,,,,, if the wires that you have on your car are NOT DOING THEIR JOB,,, Purchase a new wire based on "QUALITY OF THE MATERIALS THAT THE WIRES ARE MADE FROM and HOW THEY FIT. Plain and simple! If you have a good quality wire and they fit properly on the coil tower and on the plug,, you're GOLDEN in the plug wire department!

Ive touched a LOT of different plug wires since the inception of LS1 in the C5 and here is what Ive found works well for me:

I agree! Magnecor KV85 wire work very well. I purchased a set for my 98 Coupe back in 2000 after my stock wires started breaking down. I have since transfered those same wires on to my 02 ZO6 after my first set of mods and then after my second set of mods. Those same wires have been in operation since they were purchased and still work excellent. They have been on and off the engine more times than I can remember!
When I purchased them back in 2000, they were a LOT more expensive than most other wires. Compare prices and look for bang for the buck.

I work on a LOT of C5s and C6s. The wire that Ive found that has the best bang for the buck is the GMPP Red Performance wires that you can get from Gene Culley for the price that " Corvette_Ed " stated. Plain and simple! They flat work and wont drain your bank account too bad!!!!!

Folks,, the quality fit and finish of those wires is difficult to beat and like the magnacores,, they last a LONG time without any issues.

Bill,,,, In SUNNY (read friggen HOT as hell ) Dubai UAE
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you said it bill. i agree that the gmpp red wires are best bang for buck. prolly be my next set
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
........ I agree! Magnecor KV85 wire work very well. I purchased a set for my 98 Coupe back in 2000 after my stock wires started breaking down. I have since transfered those same wires on to my 02 ZO6 after my first set of mods and then after my second set of mods. Those same wires have been in operation since they were purchased and still work excellent. They have been on and off the engine more times than I can remember!
When I purchased them back in 2000, they were a LOT more expensive than most other wires. Compare prices and look for bang for the buck.

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One thing I don't do, (and never have) is buy wires looking for "more hp". I buy them for quality of fit, materials, and most of all, reliability. The fact that KV85s look nice is just icing on the cake for me. I have used them for years and will continue to do so.
Although NO wire can create "hp", if not well made and designed, they can LOSE power (of the horse kind) through excessive voltage drop either in the conductor itself or the terminals, or short circuiting due to burn through of the insulator, etc.
I chose Magnecor since that is their sole business and their expertise shows in the quality. They pay as much attention (if not more) to termination, as they do to the conductor and it's construction. They don't sell muffler bearings, super whiz-bang zip ties (in all your favorite colors of course) or tee-shirts, or baseball hats nor do they make false claims to give you "more power". They make very good plug wires. Period.

I agree with you too Bill about the GMPP red wires. Well made also, and for those whose budget solely drives their decision, they are a great value for the money. I am willing to spend the extra $20 or $30 for Magnecors however, based on my personal experience and desire for long term reliability and performance.
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I have Magnecor wires on my Corvette & my motorcycle. The motorcycle wires are 12 yrs old & the Corvette wires are 7 yrs old & show no signs of wear are breaking down. I would surely buy another set if I get something else that needs a set.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Google: Magnecor KV85 and browse. Available from a number of distributors and been around for a number of years. They don't try to be all things to all people. All they make are plug wires. Very good ones.
How do the Magnecor KV85 wires fit inside the metal heat shields compared to the GMPP wires? I'm still not completely convinced that I need to change my 71k mileage wires, they all looked just fine when I pulled the coil pack assembly on each side so I could install new valve cover gaskets & grommets. They're supposed to last at least 100k miles, and I think they've been changed at least once somewhere along the line by the original owner. He was as **** as I am about maintenance and care, and the Carfax report that came with the car indicated quite a few tune-ups were done; more than the car needed for the mileage it has for sure. I'm guessing at least one of those tune-ups included a change of plug wires. If I do change I wouldn't mind paying the extra $20-30 for Magnecor wires if they're really that good. I'm on a tight budget, but I don't mind paying for quality when and where it counts.
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Both GMPP Red Performance wires & Magnicores fit inside the OEM metal shields. That was one of the requirements for any wires that I purchased.

As for your OEM wires. If you carefully examine each wire looking for cracks, splits and defects in the exterior wire jackets and the boots and then measure each wire end to end with an OHM Meter. Also inspect the metal connection terminals inside the boots on boyh ends. If a wire is installed incorrectly it can cause arc jumping and that can corrode and damage ant internal terminal hardware.

Each wire should measure between 250-750 ohms end to end (normal average 300-400 ohms)

If your wires meet all the above specifications, you will gain nothing from changing wires other than maybe a new look in the engine compartment.

When I go to Carlisle each year, I bring my Ohm Meter and if I see an entire set of GMPP wires for sale on the cheep side, I inspect them, measure them and buy them. I have plenty of friends who need wires in a pinch.



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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
Both GMPP Red Performance wires & Magnicores fit inside the OEM metal shields. That was one of the requirements for any wires that I purchased.

As for your OEM wires. If you carefully examine each wire looking for cracks, splits and defects in the exterior wire jackets and the boots and then measure each wire end to end with an OHM Meter. Also inspect the metal connection terminals inside the boots on boyh ends. If a wire is installed incorrectly it can cause arc jumping and that can corrode and damage ant internal terminal hardware.

Each wire should measure between 250-750 ohms end to end (normal average 300-400 ohms)

If your wires meet all the above specifications, you will gain nothing from changing wires other than maybe a new look in the engine compartment.

When I go to Carlisle each year, I bring my Ohm Meter and if I see an entire set of GMPP wires for sale on the cheep side, I inspect them, measure them and buy them. I have plenty of friends who need wires in a pinch.



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I think I'll just change them out lol. I guess I really should stop putting off buying a digital multimeter. It seems my Vette is going to get more use out of it than I will as a computer engineer.
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Make sure that you get a meter that has scales and features that you can easily read. Ive seen some OFFSHORE made meters that need a calculus major to figure out what the meter is reading.

You need to read Volts DC, Volts AC, Resistance (OHMS) and AC & DC current and millivolt readings.

I got a FLUKE 77/AN Meter from Navy DRMO sale years and years ago. It does everything that I need it to for all the work on the C5/C6 Vettes.




Hell,, for you old timer Navy Guys,, I still have my Simpson 260 and my AN/PSM-4 LOL!!

I swear, you can beat an old analogue meter sometimes!

Bill
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I've been using the Taylor 10.4mm wires for a while now. They do have a tendency to come apart when pulling the boot off the plug. I think the metal part that attaches to the tip of the plug grabs so tightly that you wind up pulling the metal part off the wire itself. They are a very nice plug wire and they clear my headers very nicely. But, I would not recommend them for those that like to change their plugs all the time as they will come apart if you aren't really careful when you pull them and I've had a couple come apart even after removing them with extreme care.

I too will probably switch to another brand next time I change the plugs.
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GMPP from Gene all the way. I got yelled at on here for talking bad about MSD but since then many other people have posted up issues that they have had with them.
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