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Duh yourself. I never said I was going to the dealer. They offered to decifer the codes for nothing but added that their diagnosis was a two hour job, much more involving. I'll be impressed if the codes tell me what is causing the problem. The idea of a faulty solenoid deserves research.
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YES,,,,,,,,, The solenoids do go intermittant. When mine went bad, I use to whack it with a 20' LONG insulated piece of REBAR.
Just a quick BUMP would allow it to function normaly for a few days.
You can change out the solenoid for anput $50 but most people just replace the starter with a reman unit.
BC
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YES,,,,,,,,, The solenoids do go intermittant. When mine went bad, I use to whack it with a 20' LONG insulated piece of REBAR.
Just a quick BUMP would allow it to function normaly for a few days.
You can change out the solenoid for anput $50 but most people just replace the starter with a reman unit.
BC
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[QUOTE=The Rabbi;1582138136]
Thanks for the video, Bill. Don't the codes mean something is wrong so how can you just delete them? Is it really possible that there is a code that occassionally prevents the key from making contact with the solenoid? I'm going to be near a dealer and will pick their brain about this problem. They must have experience with this problem.
Codes accumulate. When you have 30 different history codes that may have happened months ago still present,,,, It makes troubleshooting very confusing. Clear them!!!
Trust me. If there is an issue,, the correct DTCs will show back up. They will be the ones that you need to concentrate on.
Thanks for the video, Bill. Don't the codes mean something is wrong so how can you just delete them? Is it really possible that there is a code that occassionally prevents the key from making contact with the solenoid? I'm going to be near a dealer and will pick their brain about this problem. They must have experience with this problem.
Trust me. If there is an issue,, the correct DTCs will show back up. They will be the ones that you need to concentrate on.
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[QUOTE=Bill Curlee;1582136138]
I've had small problems in the past when I've allowed the key to get a little water on it. Engine would start, but after moving a couple feet in 1st, would immediately shut down. DIC message would say "PULL KEY - WAIT 10 SECONDS." Sometimes "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK." The CLB had been installed many years before. Hope this helps. Keep your key completely free of water.
I was in the Army, I have a strong stomach. Water conducts electricity and can help make a connection if it's dirty.
Seriously, it's not clicking the solenoid. It doesn't make sense unless the new switch is junk which wouldn't surprise me. My mechanic ignores my suggestion that it could be corrosion at the solenoid connection. I'm prone to believe it's the switch again.[/QUOTE
If you have WATER or even moisture on the Ignition Switch contacts,, MAN THE LIFE BOATS!
Remove the switch and conduct a resistance check on it. If it fails,, disassemble it and figure out what the exact is wrong and FIX IT.
BC
Seriously, it's not clicking the solenoid. It doesn't make sense unless the new switch is junk which wouldn't surprise me. My mechanic ignores my suggestion that it could be corrosion at the solenoid connection. I'm prone to believe it's the switch again.[/QUOTE
If you have WATER or even moisture on the Ignition Switch contacts,, MAN THE LIFE BOATS!Remove the switch and conduct a resistance check on it. If it fails,, disassemble it and figure out what the exact is wrong and FIX IT.
BC
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[QUOTE=Bill Curlee;1582145979]
Codes accumulate. When you have 30 different history codes that may have happened months ago still present,,,, It makes troubleshooting very confusing. Clear them!!!
Trust me. If there is an issue,, the correct DTCs will show back up. They will be the ones that you need to concentrate on.
The dealer told me the same thing about the codes. I'm taking it in for a new starter and solenoid.
Codes accumulate. When you have 30 different history codes that may have happened months ago still present,,,, It makes troubleshooting very confusing. Clear them!!!
Trust me. If there is an issue,, the correct DTCs will show back up. They will be the ones that you need to concentrate on.
The dealer told me the same thing about the codes. I'm taking it in for a new starter and solenoid.
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[QUOTE=The Rabbi;1582148471]
Nice thing about the dealer..they are always willing to change whatever parts you tell them to.........even if it's not the problem. Even if you have a lock cylinder issue, they'll change the starter, and you absorb the responsibility.
Nice thing about the dealer..they are always willing to change whatever parts you tell them to.........even if it's not the problem. Even if you have a lock cylinder issue, they'll change the starter, and you absorb the responsibility.
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[QUOTE=lucky131969;1582148582]
I know that, I was a dealer. My mechanic has been saying all along to change the starter. I didn't want to change a good starter. If he would have mentioned it's the solenoid to begin with and it's a smart idea to change the starter at the same time, with 60K miles, I would have done it long ago.
Consider this thread closed. Thank everyone for their assistance.
Consider this thread closed. Thank everyone for their assistance.
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Did this thread really make it to 35 posts and he still won't delete those damn codes? 
Is he saving them cause he's afraid they might not ever come back?
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Is he saving them cause he's afraid they might not ever come back?
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Have the starter/solenoid checked. I screwed with the ignition switch, clutch switch, etc. (took them apart, cleaned contacts, bent contact arms, etc.) before finally coming to the conclusion that the starter was fried.
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St. Jude Donor '14,'18
Nah, ya got it all wrong. I was a used car wholesaler, we didn't buy new parts but that ended with the '80s before computer cars. The research is done without codes which are probably very old. I will clean them.
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St. Jude Donor '14,'18
I can hear a bad starter. Surprised it was missed to begin with.
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