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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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I ran the UV detection dye through my A/C system yesterday evening, and after running the system for nearly 30 minutes I could not find a leak anywhere in the engine compartment or underneath the condenser where the lower fitting attaches. There is a slight possibility that the leak sealant contained in the dye might have fixed the leak, but my luck just isn't that good. Is there a chance the leak could be inside the cabin behind the dash?
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Is there a chance the leak could be inside the cabin behind the dash?
Yes it's possible that you might have a leak in the evaporator, which is located in the blower plenum behind the dash.

A refrigeration technician would use an electronic Halogen/Refrigerant leak detector, to "sniff" the air coming from the dash A/C outlets, in order to determine if the evaporator has a leak.

You would need to pull the whole dash apart to check the evaporator for leaks with the U/V dye method........not a fun job!
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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Kinda have the same problem here Ed. Picked up my ride in Oct of 2011 and being cooler weather, I didn't mess with the AC. Come spring/summer, I was planning a trip with the car to Detroit so I had the AC pulled down and then recharged. We left it on the vacuum for about 30 minutes to see if it was leaking and it showed no problem whatsoever. AC was super cold and worked all summer just fine, however in September, I noticed it was not blowing cold air, only cool. Now 6 months later, AC has no coolness to it at all, so looking at recharing again soon. Gonna have to chase that leak I guess. Good luck with yours and let me know what you find.
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I am not sure if this helps, but last summer my 1999 coupe had a leak at the compressor, as the bolt at the compressor backed out. My mechanic said this a very common failure on C5s. Tightened the bolt, recharged the system, all was good!
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I am not sure if this helps, but last summer my 1999 coupe had a leak at the compressor, as the bolt at the compressor backed out. My mechanic said this a very common failure on C5s. Tightened the bolt, recharged the system, all was good!
Wouldn't that have shown up through the dye? I checked the area around the compressor and didn't see any signs of the dye leaking through in that area.
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
Yes it's possible that you might have a leak in the evaporator, which is located in the blower plenum behind the dash.

A refrigeration technician would use an electronic Halogen/Refrigerant leak detector, to "sniff" the air coming from the dash A/C outlets, in order to determine if the evaporator has a leak.

You would need to pull the whole dash apart to check the evaporator for leaks with the U/V dye method........not a fun job!
This is what I was afraid of. I have to pull the dash apart anyway so I might as well go ahead and do it now and take care of two problems at once.
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
Yes it's possible that you might have a leak in the evaporator, which is located in the blower plenum behind the dash.

A refrigeration technician would use an electronic Halogen/Refrigerant leak detector, to "sniff" the air coming from the dash A/C outlets, in order to determine if the evaporator has a leak.

You would need to pull the whole dash apart to check the evaporator for leaks with the U/V dye method........not a fun job!
Yes. What he said. Just tested this way today. 2 hours into the tear down. Trying to get the dash out w/o f---ing up the hud.

PS pull your seats for more room.
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After considering this for a bit, I think I'm going to have a technician do the sniff test before I tear the entire interior of the car apart. With the luck I've had lately I'd end up cracking the dash in half.

Is this test something that any A/C technician can do, or is it strictly an automotive thing?
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
After considering this for a bit, I think I'm going to have a technician do the sniff test before I tear the entire interior of the car apart. With the luck I've had lately I'd end up cracking the dash in half.

Is this test something that any A/C technician can do, or is it strictly an automotive thing?
Any decent A/C or refrigeration tech should have the tool, and the right knowledge to do the test.
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
Wouldn't that have shown up through the dye? I checked the area around the compressor and didn't see any signs of the dye leaking through in that area.
There is a pressure relief valve on the back end of the compressor which sometimes leaks and there will be a wetness, oily, in the pan underneath the compressor.

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Originally Posted by PierEagle
There is a pressure relief valve on the back end of the compressor which sometimes leaks and there will be a wetness, oily, in the pan underneath the compressor.
I'll jack the car up after things dry out here. We got pounded early this morning with pouring rain and hail. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
Any decent A/C or refrigeration tech should have the tool, and the right knowledge to do the test.
Thanks; I'll stop by a local place and see if they'll do a quick check for me.
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I'll jack the car up after things dry out here. We got pounded early this morning with pouring rain and hail. Thanks.
You don't have to jack the car up. If the leak is from the pressure relief valve or, a fitting on the back of the compressor is the problem, you can see/feel the oil residue by looking down and under the compressor, from the top. May need a flashlight.
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Originally Posted by PierEagle
You don't have to jack the car up. If the leak is from the pressure relief valve or, a fitting on the back of the compressor is the problem, you can see/feel the oil residue by looking down and under the compressor, from the top. May need a flashlight.
I finally got around to checking this and that area is clean.

Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
Any decent A/C or refrigeration tech should have the tool, and the right knowledge to do the test.
I got bogged down with some things and haven't had the chance to do this yet, but I am a little confused because my air is still blowing cold after two weeks. When I put a full, large can of R-134 in last August it lasted about two weeks before it leaked out and the A/C started blowing hot again. The can of R-134 with the dye in it that I put in two weeks ago was a third of the size of the large can and is still in the system. What are the odds that the leak sealant that was also in the can with the dye actually sealed the leak, and what are the odds that it will hold? I've never heard of this actually working before, but after two weeks I should not have any R-134 still in the system, yet it's still in there.

I still plan on taking the car by an A/C shop to have the vents tested for a possible leak from the evaporator but the fact that I still have cold air is blowing my mind.

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Going on three weeks now and the air is still blowing as cold as it was when I first put the can of coolant/dye/leak sealant in. I'm thinking I might have gotten very lucky for once, but I'm not holding my breath...
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I have the same issue on my 98! I've charged the ac system 2 times in the last week and after 1-2 days it has leaked out. I also put the dye in it and did'nt find any leaks anywhere except for at the low side schrader valve by the battery, I tightened that up and its clean. I used the sniffer and it didn't alert to anything when it was charged coming out of the vents. Anybody have any suggestions on what i should do.
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Originally Posted by kenlilley
I have the same issue on my 98! I've charged the ac system 2 times in the last week and after 1-2 days it has leaked out. I also put the dye in it and did'nt find any leaks anywhere except for at the low side schrader valve by the battery, I tightened that up and its clean. I used the sniffer and it didn't alert to anything when it was charged coming out of the vents. Anybody have any suggestions on what i should do.
Did you check the compressor as noted in one of the posts above?
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