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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Ok, time to replace HB. What other components should I consider replacing while I am in there, not withstanding re-camming?

1. Timing Chain (LS2)
2. Oil pump (to Hiflow)
3. Crank Pinning
4. ?????

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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KF9BD
Ok, time to replace HB. What other components should I consider replacing while I am in there, not withstanding re-camming?

1. Timing Chain (LS2)
2. Oil pump (to Hiflow)
3. Crank Pinning
4. ?????

Thanks

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I know what you mean....Last year, I had a harmonic balancer and a
A/C compressor go in the same week.
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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At a minimum, front cover seal.
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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If it were me, cover seal, ARP Damper bolt, new oil pump (melling high volume pump) and LS2 Chain.

They also sell a new aftermarket steering rack bushing that firms up the rack mount.

If you dont use an ARP Bolt, get a NEW OEM BOLT and the correct tightening and torque procedure and follow it to a T!!!!


Make sure that you put the cover gasket on the correct way.. there is a right and wrong way!

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Great info, fellows. So far:

* Front Cover seal
* Melling Hi Vol Oil pump
* ARP Damper Bolt
* Crank Pin (may go FI in future)
* LS2 Chain
* After market Damper
* ??? anythingelse???

Bill: Do you have more infor on the steering rack bushing?


Danny
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 05:29 PM
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Well, uh, a new cam. Practically free HP, if done right.
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My balancer has been wobbling for a while now. Yeterday I changed the oil and noticed oil on the pan leading up to the harmonic balancer. I have concluded that the seal in leaking. I intend to replace the balancer but want to inquire if it makes any difference where I get the balancer - GM - Autozone or others. Any suggestions?
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I recently did a timing cover and waterpump replacement due to leaks in both and I changed everything I could get my hands on while I was in there including belts, hoses, tensioners, timing cover and gasket, timing chain, front seal, crank pulley, crank bolt (w/ ARP bolt) and thermostat.
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Originally Posted by Patches
I recently did a timing cover and waterpump replacement due to leaks in both and I changed everything I could get my hands on while I was in there including belts, hoses, tensioners, timing cover and gasket, timing chain, front seal, crank pulley, crank bolt (w/ ARP bolt) and thermostat.
THIS!

Just made no sense to me to be that far into it and not change everything.
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An internet search has Harmonic Balancers ranging from $100 to $450! This car is a daily driver with 160k+ miles on it. I intend to keep it for a while longer.
I want a pully that will keep me from having to replace it in the next year or two. So, is the Autozone part sufficient?
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I'd think the Autozone one would be a generic OEM replacement, of uncertain origin/quality. I would go with a Powerbond. They're made in Australia, and are much better than OEM for a reasonable amount of Corvette tax.
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I wouldnt use an LS2 chain unless you have an LS2 damper (which are hard to get). Just go with the C5R chain
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A shop here in Raleigh has had issues with ARP crank bolts backing out. Just food for thought. Not sure if it's an isolated incident.
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why are you guys recommending high volume pump....the car is stock.
what ive seen people recommend on modified cars is the ls4 pump
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Great advise as always. I have an appointment with my local corvette shop to have the pulley replaced with a Powerbond, along with the front seal and the steering rack bushing. They quote $700 labor and parts.

Thanks again for the advise. Always appreciated.

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How can you tell if the Harmonic Balancer is going
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I noticed a sqeaking and an upon investigating the noise I noticed the pulley was visibly wobbling, maybe 3 or 4 mm. I have ~146K on the motor, so, no real surprise.

You can do a couple things to confirm pulley failure:

1. Place a mark on the pulley, outside edge toward center, across both pieces of the pulley. Then go drive the car hard. Then check to see if the mark is still a single unbroken line. If the pulley is slipping the line is no longer be a single line.

2. Visually inspect the rubber part of the pulley looking for surface cracks/deterioration.

You will not be able to feel any slop in the pulley, a failed pulley will be as solid to the hand as a non-failed pulley.

Hope this information if helpful.

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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now will the squeaking happen during start up or when driving or all the time. Mine has 170,000.
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Originally Posted by schaffer C5
now will the squeaking happen during start up or when driving or all the time. Mine has 170,000.
The noise was and is at this point consistent whether driving or just setting at idle. The period of the squeak changed with rpm.

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Ok so mine is good then
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