Best cam for torque
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Rass Claat Viper
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From: Aldie, VA
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2002
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From: Oklahoma City OK
I love my 224/232 on a 114 with 2800 vigilante. Drives like stock and tons of torque. I've had it in over a year now and no regrets. Before I had the
auto conversion done I had a 228/232 on a 110 and could never get
it tuned where it didn't stall at stoplights or rpm's jump up and down.
It was tuned at a very popular shop down in Georgia, twice.
Got to where I didn't even like driving it. With this cam and the auto
now anything below 35 or 40 the tires will lose traction when I stomp
it with the 3:42's I had put in it. Haven't had it on a dyno since but it's
got all the power I want.
auto conversion done I had a 228/232 on a 110 and could never get
it tuned where it didn't stall at stoplights or rpm's jump up and down.
It was tuned at a very popular shop down in Georgia, twice.
Got to where I didn't even like driving it. With this cam and the auto
now anything below 35 or 40 the tires will lose traction when I stomp
it with the 3:42's I had put in it. Haven't had it on a dyno since but it's
got all the power I want.
Racer
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From: Acworth Georgia
Tech Contributor
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From: Wylie TX --> Less is More, except under the hood !
I Love my cam.
LG's X1-E cam (590 ish, 230 ish, 114 LSA).
Dyno'd 471/441
I left some HP on the table and tuned for a SAFE 12.6 AFR.
I did my build with the goal built mine with the goal for MAX Torque, and reliable.
Stock like driving manors. No surging, no bucking, no issues.
I can start it up and drive away. I don't have to let it warm up.
Good for a blower too I'm told... (if I ever choose to).
I routinely get 18 mpg hot ******* it around Dallas.
I did a highway run once and car said I got 29 MPG.
My next fill up said 28 (manual calculation).
Not that I'm worried about gas mileage, but im happy.
I also agree with others... are you sure you have a GOOD tune ?
Your cam is really not that larger than mine.
Where do you have your idle set at ?
Mine is at 925 rpm, and its perfect.
Toque
LG's X1-E cam (590 ish, 230 ish, 114 LSA).
Dyno'd 471/441
I left some HP on the table and tuned for a SAFE 12.6 AFR.
I did my build with the goal built mine with the goal for MAX Torque, and reliable.
Stock like driving manors. No surging, no bucking, no issues.
I can start it up and drive away. I don't have to let it warm up.
Good for a blower too I'm told... (if I ever choose to).
I routinely get 18 mpg hot ******* it around Dallas.
I did a highway run once and car said I got 29 MPG.
My next fill up said 28 (manual calculation).
Not that I'm worried about gas mileage, but im happy.
I also agree with others... are you sure you have a GOOD tune ?
Your cam is really not that larger than mine.
Where do you have your idle set at ?
Mine is at 925 rpm, and its perfect.
Toque
Last edited by Toque; Jul 1, 2013 at 04:05 PM.
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From: Hillsboro OR
My story...
2003 Coupe, H/C, Yank 2800 stall, 3:42 gears.
I have a CompCam 224/230 .581/.588 113 LSA.
This cam is considered a "mild" cam. All of the hp/tq is in the "mid-range". The 113 LSA makes for a lumpy idle. (FYI, I know someone with the exact same cam I have except he has a 114 LSA and the idle sounds stock.)
My car came with the LS6 intake. I used new stock Z06 (243) heads.
I ended up with 420 rwhp/ 392 rwtq.
Hope that helps.
BTW, I changed my gears from 2:73 -> 3:42 before the cam install. That alone made it "feel" like I added 50 hp.
Whenever you do the gears, do the stall at the same time. It will save you 8 hours or $800.00 if someone else does it.
2003 Coupe, H/C, Yank 2800 stall, 3:42 gears.
I have a CompCam 224/230 .581/.588 113 LSA.
This cam is considered a "mild" cam. All of the hp/tq is in the "mid-range". The 113 LSA makes for a lumpy idle. (FYI, I know someone with the exact same cam I have except he has a 114 LSA and the idle sounds stock.)
My car came with the LS6 intake. I used new stock Z06 (243) heads.
I ended up with 420 rwhp/ 392 rwtq.
Hope that helps.
BTW, I changed my gears from 2:73 -> 3:42 before the cam install. That alone made it "feel" like I added 50 hp.
Whenever you do the gears, do the stall at the same time. It will save you 8 hours or $800.00 if someone else does it.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2012
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From: Oceanside California
I can confirm 28mpg with my 3.42's behind the A4. I went from 2.73's as well. Sure 31ish mpg was nice. But 28 it still pretty darn good. And the 3.42's make the sucker get up and go!
Safety Car
Joined: Aug 2011
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From: Portland OR
As far as mpg, on flat road at 65 DIC says 26. Add a hill or two, less.
City, I do a lot of rush hour, 45minute trips all stop and go. MPG will drop to 13.
Economy is interesting, but not at all why I built the car.
Ron
Last edited by RonSSNova; Jul 1, 2013 at 08:13 PM.
Thread Starter
Rass Claat Viper
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 816
Likes: 9
From: Aldie, VA
I Love my cam.
LG's X1-E cam (590 ish, 230 ish, 114 LSA).
Dyno'd 471/441
I left some HP on the table and tuned for a SAFE 12.6 AFR.
I did my build with the goal built mine with the goal for MAX Torque, and reliable.
Stock like driving manors. No surging, no bucking, no issues.
I can start it up and drive away. I don't have to let it warm up.
Good for a blower too I'm told... (if I ever choose to).
I routinely get 18 mpg hot ******* it around Dallas.
I did a highway run once and car said I got 29 MPG.
My next fill up said 28 (manual calculation).
Not that I'm worried about gas mileage, but im happy.
I also agree with others... are you sure you have a GOOD tune ?
Your cam is really not that larger than mine.
Where do you have your idle set at ?
Mine is at 925 rpm, and its perfect.
Toque
LG's X1-E cam (590 ish, 230 ish, 114 LSA).
Dyno'd 471/441
I left some HP on the table and tuned for a SAFE 12.6 AFR.
I did my build with the goal built mine with the goal for MAX Torque, and reliable.
Stock like driving manors. No surging, no bucking, no issues.
I can start it up and drive away. I don't have to let it warm up.
Good for a blower too I'm told... (if I ever choose to).
I routinely get 18 mpg hot ******* it around Dallas.
I did a highway run once and car said I got 29 MPG.
My next fill up said 28 (manual calculation).
Not that I'm worried about gas mileage, but im happy.
I also agree with others... are you sure you have a GOOD tune ?
Your cam is really not that larger than mine.
Where do you have your idle set at ?
Mine is at 925 rpm, and its perfect.
Toque
The idle is set at about 850My story...
2003 Coupe, H/C, Yank 2800 stall, 3:42 gears.
I have a CompCam 224/230 .581/.588 113 LSA.
This cam is considered a "mild" cam. All of the hp/tq is in the "mid-range". The 113 LSA makes for a lumpy idle. (FYI, I know someone with the exact same cam I have except he has a 114 LSA and the idle sounds stock.)
My car came with the LS6 intake. I used new stock Z06 (243) heads.
I ended up with 420 rwhp/ 392 rwtq.
Hope that helps.
BTW, I changed my gears from 2:73 -> 3:42 before the cam install. That alone made it "feel" like I added 50 hp.
Whenever you do the gears, do the stall at the same time. It will save you 8 hours or $800.00 if someone else does it.
2003 Coupe, H/C, Yank 2800 stall, 3:42 gears.
I have a CompCam 224/230 .581/.588 113 LSA.
This cam is considered a "mild" cam. All of the hp/tq is in the "mid-range". The 113 LSA makes for a lumpy idle. (FYI, I know someone with the exact same cam I have except he has a 114 LSA and the idle sounds stock.)
My car came with the LS6 intake. I used new stock Z06 (243) heads.
I ended up with 420 rwhp/ 392 rwtq.
Hope that helps.
BTW, I changed my gears from 2:73 -> 3:42 before the cam install. That alone made it "feel" like I added 50 hp.
Whenever you do the gears, do the stall at the same time. It will save you 8 hours or $800.00 if someone else does it.
Getting a quote on stall now. If I do gears, I am going with 3.73's to make it worth the hassle.
With 3600 stall I don't notice loss of low end. It pulls hills fine locked at 1800rpm. No issues at all. But then, I hardly drove the car when it was stock.
As far as mpg, on flat road at 65 DIC says 26. Add a hill or two, less.
City, I do a lot of rush hour, 45minute trips all stop and go. MPG will drop to 13.
Economy is interesting, but not at all why I built the car.
Ron
As far as mpg, on flat road at 65 DIC says 26. Add a hill or two, less.
City, I do a lot of rush hour, 45minute trips all stop and go. MPG will drop to 13.
Economy is interesting, but not at all why I built the car.
Ron
Melting Slicks
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From: Paducah Ky
After living with my first "cam from hell" I cannot tell you how I have enjoyed the stock like drivability with this one. Find a GOOD tuner willing to spend the time and I bet your problems will go away.
Racer
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From: Acworth Georgia
It cannot be stressed enough, when you hear the saying "It's all in the tune", believe it, IT'S ALL IN THE TUNE! To get all or most of the hiccups out sometimes it takes several hours of street tuning to get great drivability.
After living with my first "cam from hell" I cannot tell you how I have enjoyed the stock like drivability with this one. Find a GOOD tuner willing to spend the time and I bet your problems will go away.
After living with my first "cam from hell" I cannot tell you how I have enjoyed the stock like drivability with this one. Find a GOOD tuner willing to spend the time and I bet your problems will go away.
Le Mans Master
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From: Hillsboro OR
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From: Md
It cannot be stressed enough, when you hear the saying "It's all in the tune", believe it, IT'S ALL IN THE TUNE! To get all or most of the hiccups out sometimes it takes several hours of street tuning to get great drivability.
After living with my first "cam from hell" I cannot tell you how I have enjoyed the stock like drivability with this one. Find a GOOD tuner willing to spend the time and I bet your problems will go away.
After living with my first "cam from hell" I cannot tell you how I have enjoyed the stock like drivability with this one. Find a GOOD tuner willing to spend the time and I bet your problems will go away.
2002 A4; 228r@114 lsa; ported 243's; long tubes etc.etc.
My tune ruined my cam experience.
Now I gotta go $600 HP tuners (Im an ASE Master but NOT a tuner)
Or go pay some other shop 4-600$ for another tune.
Funny thing Cam, tune, then heads. He had the thing so da*& rich the increased airflow actually improved his lousy tune. Even at idle; cold/warm starts; etc. From 4-6k rpm she is a Goddess though.....
Heel & Toe
Joined: Jul 2013
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From: Clayton NC
I recently added a texas speed 224/228 with 112 LSA and hand ported a set of 241 heads with headers and a cold air intake. below 2500 rpm it may have lost a little bit of torque from stock but from 2500-5500 there is over 350ftlb at the rear wheels with a peak of 380ftlb at 4800 rpm and peak power 390rwhp at 6300 rpm. It is a great street cam cruising around in 6th gear from 55mph on. I can pull away from a stop the same as I did with the stock cam. For the street I wouldn't go any bigger than that. The 220R or 224R may even be a better selection for you. Hope this helps
Matt
Matt
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From: Rio Rancho NM
Try to drive a few a few if you can. Everyone has their favorites. I would give Arun @ CCP a pm and tell him what you want and how you drive and your setup. He is the man when it comes to cams around here.
Safety Car
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From: Portland OR
Put your car in instantaneous fuel economy read out and watch how bad it gets when the converter is stalling. It will surprise you even at light throttle. I bet it costs 3mpg easy.
