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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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So I read a post elsewhere by a Corvette mechanic to the effect that if one were to disconnect the battery negative and then cycle the ignition switch about 200 times, it would resolve malfunctions. Could not see how this would alter the contacts at all based upon the structure of the switch.

Having nothing at all to lose, I decided to try it before spending a few hours removing, fixing and/or replacing the switch.

Well, at least for now, all problems are gone!!
I suspect they may return, and that I will need to remove it, as I cannot see how the contacts would be well cleaned by the recycle procedure, but I am amazed at the immediate fix and absence of any previous problems and codes. WTH eck?
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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My gut reaction is "No Way". I agree with your cautious optimism.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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No, that won't do diddly. If they were knife style contacts or something similar where one contact slides over the other then yes they can have a self-cleaning effect. But the contacts in your ignition switch are simply getting pressed straight together with spring tension. Cycling them does nothing. When they get carboned up, they'll start acting up sporadically. My guess is they're just in a good mood for the time.

Replace the damn thing. Seriously it's one of the easiest repairs you'll do on these cars.

You can clean them too, but my experience with cleaning them was that you have to do it on about a 1 year schedule once you clean them the first time. They'll just keep carboning up again and again.
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Originally Posted by wcsinx

You can clean them too, but my experience with cleaning them was that you have to do it on about a 1 year schedule once you clean them the first time. They'll just keep carboning up again and again.
I'd like to see BC's opinion on this one. My cleaned switch is still working as if it were new and it's been well over a year.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by David Shiel
Having nothing at all to lose, I decided to try it before spending a few hours removing, fixing and/or replacing the switch.
If you have any experience taking the radio bezel out the entire process would take about an hour tops.
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
I'd like to see BC's opinion on this one. My cleaned switch is still working as if it were new and it's been well over a year.
I'm just telling you my personal experience. I cleaned mine the first time, about a year later the same symptoms reappeared. Cleaned it a second time, and like clockwork it started acting dodgy after another year. Cleaned it a third time and reinstalled, but also ordered a new one. Each time, it was carboned up the same way.

I'd bet money that if you pulled yours out right now, you'd find significant carbonization on the contacts.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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I guess It’s possible to beat the carbon into submission by thrashing it 200 times but, it makes more sense just to repair/ clean the switch and or replace it if you don’t feel good about doing the cleaning job. Murphy’s law says that the switch will stop working when you need the car the most!

The good part about working on your bad switch is you can re-bend the contact arms and put more contact pressure to prevent poor contact.

I have also figured out that you can drag some 400 grit wet and dry paper through the closed contacts and LAP in the contact patch between the two contacts.

This makes the contact point bigger and that will allow it to function a LOT better

This will provide better contact between the fixed and movable contacts, cause less heat at the contact points and should provide less arching which causes the problems in the first place.

NOTE! Always polish out the contacts with progressively finer paper until the points are mirror smooth. I use 400, 600, 800, & 1000. When I’m done I clean the contacts with alcohol and finally MEASURE the resistance of all the contacts with an OHM METER. You should see little or NO resistance between any of the contacts.
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
I guess It’s possible to beat the carbon into submission by thrashing it 200 times but, it makes more sense just to repair/ clean the switch and or replace it if you don’t feel good about doing the cleaning job. Murphy’s law says that the switch will stop working when you need the car the most!

The good part about working on your bad switch is you can re-bend the contact arms and put more contact pressure to prevent poor contact.

I have also figured out that you can drag some 400 grit wet and dry paper through the closed contacts and LAP in the contact patch between the two contacts.

This makes the contact point bigger and that will allow it to function a LOT better

This will provide better contact between the fixed and movable contacts, cause less heat at the contact points and should provide less arching which causes the problems in the first place.

NOTE! Always polish out the contacts with progressively finer paper until the points are mirror smooth. I use 400, 600, 800, & 1000. When I’m done I clean the contacts with alcohol and finally MEASURE the resistance of all the contacts with an OHM METER. You should see little or NO resistance between any of the contacts.
said here. Just was surprised that the cycling even produced a temporary result. It is coming out as soon as the weather cools down here in SC. Or early one morning.
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