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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 01:25 PM
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Hey Guys, I have a 99 coupe with 3.42 6 speed /// in 6th I mostly have to stay above 75 to keep from bogging the engine. I was going to change the dif to 3.90 or 4.10 gears. I want to keep my 4.42 dif (for whatever reason) Now I am thinking (ya everybody run) would it be better to go with a ZO 6 trans instead ??? I want lower end performance and higher RPM in 6th ???????? the ZO 6 is much better trans right ????
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Hey Guys, I have a 99 coupe with 3.42 6 speed /// in 6th I mostly have to stay above 75 to keep from bogging the engine. I was going to change the dif to 3.90 or 4.10 gears. I want to keep my 4.42 dif (for whatever reason) Now I am thinking (ya everybody run) would it be better to go with a ZO 6 trans instead ??? I want lower end performance and higher RPM in 6th ???????? the ZO 6 is much better trans right ????
Paul, I have a 2000 Hardtop and frankly it will not bog in 6th gear and 1700 rpm. Granted if I want to get on it, I probably won't nail it at 1700 rpm and certainly don't expect it to accelerate like a freight train, but it will move off smartly without any hesitation. You need to realize that top speed in these cars will not be reached in 6th gear, it's typically reached in 5th gear.

The 6-speed transmission is essentially the same as the Z-06 6-speed with the major difference being the 1st - 4th gear ratios;

Are you sure there isn't another problem?

Good luck... GUSTO

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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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Paul, I have a 2000 Hardtop and frankly it will not bog in 6th gear and 1700 rpm. Granted if I want to get on it, I probably won't nail it at 1700 rpm and certainly don't expect it to accelerate like a freight train, but it will move off smartly without any hesitation. You need to realize that top speed in these cars will not be reached in 6th gear, it's typically reached in 5th gear.

Are you sure there isn't another problem?

Good luck... GUSTO
when I first got the car at 75 it was around 1600 rpm,then last winter I put on new tires and wheels (went to 18's and 19's ) after that at 75 I'm around 1450 rpm or so !!! also added headers so you hear the engine better, and I learned at a early age not to bog the engine.I do want more performance and lower gears really make a difference. As I have been on this forum I found out the ZO 6 has lower ratio's though all gears. also if I have 6 gears I want to use all of them !!!
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when I first got the car at 75 it was around 1600 rpm,then last winter I put on new tires and wheels (went to 18's and 19's ) after that at 75 I'm around 1450 rpm or so !!! also added headers so you hear the engine better, and I learned at a early age not to bog the engine.I do want more performance and lower gears really make a difference. As I have been on this forum I found out the ZO 6 has lower ratio's though all gears. also if I have 6 gears I want to use all of them !!!
Paul, that's almost a 10% drop in rpm. With the exception of 4th gear the ratio differences are close to that and may work out for you.

Back in the late 60's someone gave me a set of 9.00/15's that I installed on my '63 Corvette with 3.73:1 gears. (I was having trouble getting my rear tires to last...) Previously I had no difficulty lighting up my 7.75 tires in 1st thru 3rd gear. With the taller 9.00's I now had no difficulty smoking my clutch!

Good luck and let us know how it works for you... GUSTO
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 05:49 PM
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i have 3.73 in mine and on the highway i dont have to got to 5th to pass any one 6th gear has plenty of power for that i can even put around in 6th at 40mph and pickup speed with out bogging the car but my hp is not stock (430rwhp 390rwtq) with stock tire size i'm turning 2100ish rpm's @ 75mph
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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The m12 is probably my favorite upgrade from the coupe to the z. Love the gearing in my car with stock 342's and m12
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 06:27 PM
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I dunno if this'll help or not... I've got an 03 z06 with an OEM stock rear end. I've added a Callaway-Honker CAI and a set of long tubes. I was running it without a tune for a while.

Typically, I cruise on the freeway at 73mph (8mph over the limit) and it didn't bog. Even at 40mph in 6th, it's ok. I can't flog it at 40. But at freeway speeds it moves out without a downshift though not smartly. (That's why I decided to get a Chuck CoW tune; everyone advised I left too much unharnessed by omitting a tune after the CAI and header mod.)
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Something here does not add up. The "standard" C5 is geared 44mph/1,000rpm in 6th. Bigger wheels and tires would make no difference at all to displayed speed and definitely would not affect that 44mph/1,000rpm ratio, which is controlled by the rear axle ratio.

All that happens with bigger wheels/tires is that your speedometer will read a bit "slow" compared to actual vehicle speed.
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Something here does not add up. The "standard" C5 is geared 44mph/1,000rpm in 6th. Bigger wheels and tires would make no difference at all to displayed speed and definitely would not affect that 44mph/1,000rpm ratio, which is controlled by the rear axle ratio.

All that happens with bigger wheels/tires is that your speedometer will read a bit "slow" compared to actual vehicle speed.
a 1 inch taller tire means more circumference so the tire will change the rpm ???
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The m12 is probably my favorite upgrade from the coupe to the z. Love the gearing in my car with stock 342's and m12
so you can feel quicker low end and what rpm are you turning at 75 //
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I have Michelin Pilot Super Sport - 295/35ZR19/XL on the rear and my bog might be me more than the average Joe !!!!

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so you can feel quicker low end and what rpm are you turning at 75 //
Most definitely. When I was first looking at c5's I went for a ride in a 6 speed 400rwhp coupe and it didnt pull nearly as hard as any of the Z's I had test driven.

At 75 I'm right at 2000 rpms
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Originally Posted by akapounder
Hey Guys, I have a 99 coupe with 3.42 6 speed /// in 6th I mostly have to stay above 75 to keep from bogging the engine. I was going to change the dif to 3.90 or 4.10 gears. I want to keep my 4.42 dif (for whatever reason) Now I am thinking (ya everybody run) would it be better to go with a ZO 6 trans instead ??? I want lower end performance and higher RPM in 6th ???????? the ZO 6 is much better trans right ????
Dude!!!!! There are a bunch of reasons to go with the 4.10s. You're crazy if you don't.

The reason that mod was sooo popular is because I put them in every C5 and C6 stick for years.

We have 20 Getrag cores here and we LOVE TO DO 4.10s....

There is not one single viable reason NOT to do it.

4.10s w/ Z51.... AWESOME! and drives like sock.... Better on the highway....Better on the bottom too.

You wanna LOVE your car again and make the clutch last longer....

Do the right thing....

We LOVE 4.10s!

Chuck CoW
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Something here does not add up. The "standard" C5 is geared 44mph/1,000rpm in 6th. Bigger wheels and tires would make no difference at all to displayed speed and definitely would not affect that 44mph/1,000rpm ratio, which is controlled by the rear axle ratio.

All that happens with bigger wheels/tires is that your speedometer will read a bit "slow" compared to actual vehicle speed.
not going by speedo (I know that's off) GPS
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
Dude!!!!! There are a bunch of reasons to go with the 4.10s. You're crazy if you don't.

The reason that mod was sooo popular is because I put them in every C5 and C6 stick for years.

We have 20 Getrag cores here and we LOVE TO DO 4.10s....

There is not one single viable reason NOT to do it.

4.10s w/ Z51.... AWESOME! and drives like sock.... Better on the highway....Better on the bottom too.

You wanna LOVE your car again and make the clutch last longer....

Do the right thing....

We LOVE 4.10s!

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Chuck, that was my first plan, I wanted to keep my diff. and doing that is pricey !!!! My diff. has no leaks or noise !!!!
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You can always go the route of getting a Custom built TRANSZILLA T-60/60 Trans!!! I had a spare MN-12 and had Chucks Buddy George it converted to a T60-60 Trans!

I didn't have George change any gearing but WOW!!-- Its a great trans. He can put any gear ration you want in it..

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You can always go the route of getting a Custom built TRANSZILLA T-60/60 Trans!!! I had a spare MN-12 and had Chucks Buddy George it converted to a T60-60 Trans!

I didn't have George change any gearing but WOW!!-- Its a great trans. He can put any gear ration you want in it..
Thanks Bill, I just talked to Chuck and he was very high on the 4.10's !!!
could you give me those gear ratio's ???? (more pricey than a diff ??)
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Thanks Bill, I just talked to Chuck and he was very high on the 4.10's !!!
could you give me those gear ratio's ???? (more pricey than a diff ??)

MORE PRICEY THAN A DIFF!!!

Check out this site.. Answers your ratio questions.

http://www.rsgear.com/products/trans...remec-t56.aspx
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You will love Chucks differential and service!!

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a 1 inch taller tire means more circumference so the tire will change the rpm ???
No, my point is that a inch taller tire will not change the rpm OR the speedo reading. The speedometer does not read actual vehicle speed - it calculates it from the rpm of the drive train, assuming standard tire/wheel sizes. So, with bigger wheels/tires the speedo will still read the same as if the tires were stock sizes.

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