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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 05:35 PM
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This sounds crazy, but I still have the original tires still on my 1998. It has 24k miles, but 22k of those were from over a decade ago. After getting married and 3x kids, just don't have the opportunity to take it out more than 1-2 times per year anymore.
My tire pressure sensors were last replaced in 2007, and I was amazed to go for a drive today and the sensors still reporting accurate pressure on all 4. The original sensors stopped reporting around '06, which I thought at the time was pretty good to last for 8-yrs.

After doing research on these forums, I'm going to buy the Michelin All season Pilot Sport 3+ run flats. Even though my sensors are working currently, I plan to change them out with the new tire set.

My question for you guys -- Would it be advisable to use the Costco tire shop to have these tires and sensors installed? I was going to order OEM sensors online, and then hand them to the installer at my appointment. Does the pressure sensor just attach to the rim with a hex nut? Or is there more to it than that? From my research on these forums, I should be able to match & program each tire sensor with a strong magnet when I get back home.
Costco is going to be several hundred $$ cheaper than the Chevy dealership, based on the tire price and installation, etc.

Thanks for the advice,


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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 05:43 PM
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If you look at your valve stems, the hex headed "sleeve" you you see, is the retaining nut that retains the sensors.


Sorry, but I just can't help myself....22year old tires?????
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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 07:04 PM
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My recent experience with Costco wasn't the best. Not on my vette but my d.d. Just keep in mind if you make a appointment for installation they will take at least 2 hours. No one mentioned even with a appointment you are in line with 4 other cars. Not a issue with that if someone would have said drop it off and don't wait. I was concerned about the aluminum wheels and they didnt disappoint. It took a couple hours of detailing to get the goo off the tires and the black crap off the wheels.
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Whoever is installing, have a look at those Schrader 28006 sensors, I installed on my 2sets of wheels.
They work well and are reasonably priced in Rockauto.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3948747

I bought them twice the price at another tpms specialist the first time.
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 04:11 PM
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Watch them, and correct any incorrect actions, to avoid damage.
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bshaw
This sounds crazy, but I still have the original tires still on my 1998. It has 24k miles, but 22k of those were from over a decade ago. After getting married and 3x kids, just don't have the opportunity to take it out more than 1-2 times per year anymore.
My tire pressure sensors were last replaced in 2007, and I was amazed to go for a drive today and the sensors still reporting accurate pressure on all 4. The original sensors stopped reporting around '06, which I thought at the time was pretty good to last for 8-yrs.

After doing research on these forums, I'm going to buy the Michelin All season Pilot Sport 3+ run flats. Even though my sensors are working currently, I plan to change them out with the new tire set.

My question for you guys -- Would it be advisable to use the Costco tire shop to have these tires and sensors installed? I was going to order OEM sensors online, and then hand them to the installer at my appointment. Does the pressure sensor just attach to the rim with a hex nut? Or is there more to it than that? From my research on these forums, I should be able to match & program each tire sensor with a strong magnet when I get back home.
Costco is going to be several hundred $$ cheaper than the Chevy dealership, based on the tire price and installation, etc.

Thanks for the advice,
Mine are original, 20 years, 114,000 miles. I know, hard to believe for sure. Whoever made these batteries should be making car batteries. If they ever do, sign me up for 1!!!!
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 04:36 PM
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Be aware, as you probably are, the '97-'00 sensors are more expensive than the '01 and up. Since mine have lasted 20 years, I'd recommend new OEM sensors, since they've lasted a long time. But if OEM sensors are even still available, they'd have to be NOS. Which means the batteries are probably getting old, and who knows how long they'll last. I've never given any thought to what I'll do, because I've never needed any.
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 07:49 PM
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There is a very specific inch pound torque value for that retainer nut on the valve stem. Make sure that you provide it to them and they torque it to that value. The torque value is 62 INCH POUNDS, which is around 5 ft/lbs. DO NOT over torque that nut! LOL! My guess is they will NOT have a torque wrench (especially an inch pound torque wrench) and the required deep well socket for the nut..
NOTE! Using a 0-150 foot pound torque wrench to torque something to 5 ft/lbs is NOT a very good or accurate practice! Just saying...….


YES, DO NOT get the wrong sensors! There are two different FOB and TPS frequencies and your car will only recognize the one for the EARLY 97-2000 sensors. The late model less expensive sensors will NOT work on your car!

I had the tires for my C6 11 Grand Sport changed at a discount tire center. Even though I didn't change out the sensors, they demanded that I have the damn stems serviced. They change out the shrader valve guts with a new shrader valve. That's how they milk out more cash from your wallet. Make sure that they don't charge you that fee as you will be installing new sensors.

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Members....PLEASE....20 and 22 years on tires is very unsafe.

No tire manufacturer, of which I am aware, will recommend any more than 10 years total on a tire, and that is assuming it was properly stored for a period of time before being mounted.
Properly stored for this generally means the tire is not mounted and has been stored in a room with very little, if any, sunlight which can degrade the rubber compounds.

If you were to have an accident with 20+ year old tires, your insurance company may try to use this as their "get out of jail" card and deny you coverage. Keller & Keller, a multi-state law firm representing accident victims in multiple states has a listing of “excuses” insurance companies will make to deny either full or total reimbursement on an insurance claim. Number five on their list is:is: "The insurance company might tell you the tires were worn; your brakes weren't working; your tail lights were out; or your turn signal wasn't working. In most instances, the only time a defect on your vehicle may affect the value of an injury claim is IF it was found to contribute to the cause of the accident. More importantly....you might not be around to make a claim.

If you want to save your old tires for a Concourse event, so be it; but, don't make these your everyday tires. Enlist a spouse, friend, in-law or out-law to haul your tires and jack to the area of the event, change wheels/tires and swap back to good tires after the event. And remember, as American author Flannery O'Connor said in a book, "The life you save, may be your own."
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Originally Posted by TCFS
Whoever is installing, have a look at those Schrader 28006 sensors, I installed on my 2sets of wheels.
They work well and are reasonably priced in Rockauto.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3948747

I bought them twice the price at another tpms specialist the first time.
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I used the same, I believe Schrader is an oem supplier and you can't beat the price. My originals were still working, 1999, but with the new tires going on, I didn't want to chance it with their age. I took the new tires, sensors and old set up to get installed without the car, so couldn't program(Tire Rack tires, trusted installer). After reinstalled, went to Costco and they programed it to he car with the tool, much closer than the installer. I'm goofy with the lowered car and aftermarket rims, lol. With them off , was able to remove the old weights and clean that old adhesive off, little polishing too. Ac Delco or Schrader, you will be good, wouldn't trust off brands. I wish Michelin had my sizes, had PS 2's ,running BFG Rivals now(made by Michilen), wanted SS's or 4's.
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Originally Posted by Route99
Members....PLEASE....20 and 22 years on tires is very unsafe.

No tire manufacturer, of which I am aware, will recommend any more than 10 years total on a tire, and that is assuming it was properly stored for a period of time before being mounted.
Properly stored for this generally means the tire is not mounted and has been stored in a room with very little, if any, sunlight which can degrade the rubber compounds.

If you were to have an accident with 20+ year old tires, your insurance company may try to use this as their "get out of jail" card and deny you coverage. Keller & Keller, a multi-state law firm representing accident victims in multiple states has a listing of “excuses” insurance companies will make to deny either full or total reimbursement on an insurance claim. Number five on their list is:is: "The insurance company might tell you the tires were worn; your brakes weren't working; your tail lights were out; or your turn signal wasn't working. In most instances, the only time a defect on your vehicle may affect the value of an injury claim is IF it was found to contribute to the cause of the accident. More importantly....you might not be around to make a claim.

If you want to save your old tires for a Concourse event, so be it; but, don't make these your everyday tires. Enlist a spouse, friend, in-law or out-law to haul your tires and jack to the area of the event, change wheels/tires and swap back to good tires after the event. And remember, as American author Flannery O'Connor said in a book, "The life you save, may be your own."

I agree, 100%. HOWEVER, in the context of this discussion, I can see where the age of the tires, and the age of the sensors, is possibly being interchanged......

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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
I agree, 100%. HOWEVER, in the context of this discussion, I can see where the age of the tires, and the age of the sensors, is possibly being interchanged......

Understand your position leadfoot and appreciate that this may clarify the subject a little more.
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Originally Posted by TCFS
Whoever is installing, have a look at those Schrader 28006 sensors, I installed on my 2sets of wheels.
They work well and are reasonably priced in Rockauto.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3948747

I bought them twice the price at another tpms specialist the first time.
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I totally agree with TCFS. I just recently installed the Schrader 28006 sensors on my recently purchased 2000 C5. I got them on Rock Auto. They are much cheaper then OEM I bought a second set of original wheels that came off of a 2002 with the tires and sensors installed. I then realized the sensors on a 2002 do not work on a 2000. (Should have done my homework I guess) I put on new tires and the Schrader sensors. It programmed without a hitch. I did use this magnet to do the programming. Just search this description on Amazon. $9.20

Applied Magnets 1 Piece 1.26" OD x 1/2" ID x 1/4" Grade N52 Neodymium Ring Magnet

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