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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 05:52 PM
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I have come across this video, thank you. I think this cam's specs are interesting to me in that the intake and exhaust duration difference is the same as the stock cam which was 196/208 if I remember. I may be the minority here, but just found that to be interesting. I'm sure there is plenty of reasoning and math behind that. Which I appreciate when trying to make my car go faster!
It looks to mimic the curve of the LS6 cam up top, but with more power.
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It's interesting to me that the only two performance Cams GM has put out for LS1s (ASA, and Hot Cam) also have a fairly wide difference between intake and exhaust.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 07:18 PM
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I have also heard great things about LRB. I'll look into getting my heads worked from there. I'm sure we probably have crossed paths with the same people. Small town life. I have been to the Blue Arrow. But for a wedding. Don is a cool guy. I've been meaning to go to cruise nights or the corvette shows there, but sometimes life gets busy. I appreciate the info thank you. Whenever I get around to doing this I'll revive it and post how it went.
Looking forward to what you end up going with. As long as it's done right with the right combination of parts it will be awesome. And I bet you're right. Folks you know likely know my family/friends.

If Lou is backed up or you want two local to NJ options you can also call Julio at Cartek in Garwood about the head porting. Cartek is just 1.5 hours from you (four miles from where I live now). Cartek has put out great ported 241s over the years. So weigh both options/costs. Both great guys, Lou and Julio. Plus Julio can do your dyno tune for you.

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Originally Posted by Markolc1981
It's interesting to me that the only two performance Cams GM has put out for LS1s (ASA, and Hot Cam) also have a fairly wide difference between intake and exhaust.
I’ve read that’s to help compensate for the stock exhaust.
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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 12:23 AM
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I’ve read that’s to help compensate for the stock exhaust.
That's my assumption/understanding as well. Bigger split helps with a restrictive exhaust.
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Old Nov 10, 2023 | 06:28 PM
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After reaching out to 3 different vendors looking for cylinder heads I wound up purchasing ported 243s from Phil at Advanced Induction. He is also going to order the cam so he can measure and QC them. Spoke with the tuner afterwards. He's confident that with the ported heads we can achieve what we're looking for. There's endless literature out there about cam specs and heads, but from what I have gathered, when doing the top end, starting with quality heads is a must. There's some as cast heads that flow great etc, but I didn't feel comfortable enough to use them. Phil's solid reputation is what sold me.
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Old Nov 10, 2023 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 0DARK30
After reaching out to 3 different vendors looking for cylinder heads I wound up purchasing ported 243s from Phil at Advanced Induction. He is also going to order the cam so he can measure and QC them. Spoke with the tuner afterwards. He's confident that with the ported heads we can achieve what we're looking for. There's endless literature out there about cam specs and heads, but from what I have gathered, when doing the top end, starting with quality heads is a must. There's some as cast heads that flow great etc, but I didn't feel comfortable enough to use them. Phil's solid reputation is what sold me.

All about cubic dollars 👍

Main thing is the heads are matched with the cam. Sounds like you have a pro in your corner. Good move.
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Old Nov 11, 2023 | 01:44 PM
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The AI heads are top notch. He's a one man shop so it can take a while. I made 440rwhp with his heads, 216/222 cam, ported fast92.
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Old Nov 12, 2023 | 12:28 PM
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The AI heads are top notch. He's a one man shop so it can take a while. I made 440rwhp with his heads, 216/222 cam, ported fast92.
Perfect. That's what I like to hear, thanks.
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 11:15 AM
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Putting together all the parts for this. Should I spend the extra money for ARP studs or just go with the ARP head bolts? Thy arp head bolts can be re tourqed correct? Thanks
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Originally Posted by 0DARK30
Putting together all the parts for this. Should I spend the extra money for ARP studs or just go with the ARP head bolts? Thy arp head bolts can be re tourqed correct? Thanks
Easier to gets the heads on and off with the bolts, and the can be reused.
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 04:11 PM
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Studs are nice, but they're probably better suited for FI or Nitrous. But they cant hurt any build. Either ARP studs or ARP bolts are far superior (and more economical in the long run) to the factory bolts.....
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vette4fl
Easier to gets the heads on and off with the bolts, and the can be reused.
They both work. If budget allows I prefer studs especially with the aluminum block as it puts less stress on the threads in the block.

You can still pull the heads off the car. You may have to unthread studs on the driver side to pull the head.
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 06:59 PM
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Thanks. I'm also a little lost on head gaskets. I want no leaks. I see most go with Mahle/FelPro/Cometic? Or should I wait to see how far Phil will mill the heads first?
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Originally Posted by 0DARK30
Thanks. I'm also a little lost on head gaskets. I want no leaks. I see most go with Mahle/FelPro/Cometic? Or should I wait to see how far Phil will mill the heads first?
Im staying with the GM MLS @0.051 crush. Cometics I’ve seen are 0.041”.

The GMs are a whole lot cheaper…. Have your guy CC the heads, each of them, before you have any milling done. Not uncommon for them to be different from the factory, which can be corrected. For example, one of my heads was 1/2 a CC bigger, so that could be corrected in the milling process.


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I'd stick with GM, quench can get better with the thinner gasket but make sure the deck on the block is very clean or you may have a leak.

A friend just bought carbide gasket scrapers which worked very well
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Old Nov 22, 2023 | 09:03 AM
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I know this has all been asked and answered many times but I appreciate it. What do most people get hung up on when doing H/C swaps? Aligning the balancer? Not tourqeing stuff down properly? Not measuring pushrod length???
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Originally Posted by Markolc1981
It's interesting to me that the only two performance Cams GM has put out for LS1s (ASA, and Hot Cam) also have a fairly wide difference between intake and exhaust.
Originally Posted by vette4fl
I’ve read that’s to help compensate for the stock exhaust.
The LS1 and LS6 exhaust ports only flow roughly between 75-80% of the intake ports (even on CNC ported heads). Therefore, the exhaust port flow benefits from a cam lobe that offers a wee bit more duration. Some strategies also offer differing lift, combined with different duration in order to address the flow discrepancy between the intake and exhaust ports.
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Originally Posted by Tron Z
The LS1 and LS6 exhaust ports only flow roughly between 75-80% of the intake ports (even on CNC ported heads). Therefore, the exhaust port flow benefits from a cam lobe that offers a wee bit more duration. Some strategies also offer differing lift, combined with different duration in order to address the flow discrepancy between the intake and exhaust ports.
While it's true the exhaust port doesn't flow as much as the intake, it doesn’t need to flow as much. Which is why the exhaust valve is always much smaller than the intake. Actually, 80% exhaust to intake flow is pretty good. AFR heads are known to have excellent exhaust to intake flow. For the cathedral 225s I had, Cam Motion spec'd a cam with just 4° more exhaust duration than intake. For my LS7 heads (known for not so great exhaust ports, among other things!!) Cam Motion spec'd a cam with 18° more exhaust to intake duration!!....
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