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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Hi all,
If you install headers, does it cause a distinguishable increase in engine noise coming from the engine bay, or is there no difference compared to the stock manifolds?
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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i got shorties on mine, and it's a little bit louder than when i had the factory manifold.
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Originally Posted by ProtoVette
Hi all,
If you install headers, does it cause a distinguishable increase in engine noise coming from the engine bay, or is there no difference compared to the stock manifolds?
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My wife wants to know this too. How much of a difference is the sound when cruising (not WOT)? I'm looking to put on Shorty headers too...
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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Ah who cares as long as it increases performance! Plus you can insulate your interior with Dynamat .
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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My Kooks headers are barely louder than stock at cruising in terms of exhaust noise.

However long tube headers because they are thinner than stock manifolds, will transmit more valvetrain noise.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:55 AM
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'99 C5 coupe here and prior to the headers the only mods that changed the noise level were swapping the stock cat-backs for a Z06 system and swapping the airbox for a Blackwing. Adding the LGM longtubes on top of that gave it a throatier rumble at startup and a more aggressive exhaust note during heavy throttle but no seriously noticeable difference at part throttle or during highway cruising - and I'm particular about noise levels. Of course there's no denying that the change in the power curve tempts the driver to press the loud pedal more frequently but that's a different story.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 05:07 AM
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I am running the QTP's. When I first started it in the garage, I actually thought it was quieter. It is very hard to describe, but the car sounds "cleaner". You can hear the pistons firing at idle, but it isn't real loud. At cruise, almost no difference. At full throttle, it is louder. I have the Z06 exhaust which I think is a great system. Expect some increase in sound at full throttle as a set of cats have been eliminated (that's if you run them at all). I don't think you wife will object to them at all unless you go with a loud cat back.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:16 AM
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My headers didn't increase the loudness of the exhaust any discernable amount though their longer tubes did lower the pitch.

The exhaust only really got louder with the removal of the cats.
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ECS just installed Kook's long-tubes/cats/x-pipe on my '04 Vert. I installed a Corsa Indy catback months ago. At cruise or idle, the headers produce little or no sound difference, as compared to the Corsa Indys and the stock manifolds. At WOT, however, it roars; and it's especially loud between 3000 and 4000 RPM. It's actually a little too loud for my taste.

ECS installed the headers at the same time as a 4.10 gear, so the car's acceleration is much improved. Since both were done together, I can't really say how much the headers contibuted to improved performance. I suspect it's mostly in the gears. If I had it to do again, I'd install the gears, and wait on the headers.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Thanks for all the posts.

I plan on putting a louder exhaust on, such as just a Z06 or maybe even a Borla. I want the louder exhaust. I am also thinking about doing a head/cam package, and would want the headers for the breathing, but I dont want extra 'noise' from the engine bay, just the exhaust.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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see my signature - running QTP with hiflo cats , X pipe and STOCK cat backs. It is a little louder at full throttle but cruiseing along they are quiet.The cat backs, not the headers, will primarily determine how much noise you make. I'm probibly giving up 4-7 hp but the quiet more than makes up for it.
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Originally Posted by 99 vett babycar
The cat backs, not the headers, will primarily determine how much noise you make. I'm probibly giving up 4-7 hp but the quiet more than makes up for it.
a lot depends on what cat-back system you have...and if you run cat converters at all or are catless
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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I run B&B Bullets with MTI Racing long tube headers. Got the bullets first, which are loud then after the long tubes the volume increased slightly but the tone got much lower. Deep rumble before, now deeper rumble.
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I have Dynatech headers with cats. The pitch got deeper but just driving around town I have not noticed an increase in loudness. It is a little louder at WOT. My mechanic told me the cats determine if it will get louder or not.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Default So ... cats make all the difference?

Make difference in the interior noise level ... most seem to agree, --- but, leaving them in will hurt HP output to what extent?
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I have my catless LGs and it is quite a bit noticable (maybe 15% louder). If you get it with high flow cats it'll be only a smidge louder from what I hear. Of course the cats also take the edge from the sound and act like mufflers so the sound isn't as crisp.
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Originally Posted by EB20003
My Kooks headers are barely louder than stock at cruising in terms of exhaust noise.

However long tube headers because they are thinner than stock manifolds, will transmit more valvetrain noise.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Cats will leave 5 - 10 HP on the table.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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My Stainless Works LTHs increased the sound level somewhat - but not objectionably IMO.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:31 PM
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i just installed LG's a few weeks ago. maybe im the only one... but the engine bay def. is a little bit louder!! i think its pretty amazing how some people have the best of luck, no engine noise, no exhaust leaks. i dont mind the extra noise, but it def. doesnt sound like stock!

Cats will leave 5 - 10 HP on the table
just got my Jan. 05 copy of "VETTE"... they had an install guide to the LG longtubes and then a dyno comparison...

dyno without cats - 388.8rwhp 378 lb-ft
dyno with cats - 388.1rwhp 377.9 lb-ft

looks as if the high-flow cats only took about 1 rwhp away.
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