F55 Performance issue
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Originally Posted by xs650
No, you have the wrong Dick 
.............And don't you dare flash that obscene gesture Dick.
Grumpy watches this area like a hawk and will lock it down.
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From: debary fl
Originally Posted by jeffgdula
First of all I agree that if performance is what you are looking for then you should have gotten the MN6 Z51 so that you have the most agressive gearing and can select what gear you want.
Secondly, I (and several others) got alot more power from the car after it had about 3k-5k on the clock. Hope that is the case for you as well.
Secondly, I (and several others) got alot more power from the car after it had about 3k-5k on the clock. Hope that is the case for you as well.
thanks for the replies and advise.
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
Dick Cheney, Dick Brewster one shooting quail, and the other talking about shooting turkeys. I guess February is the month for Dicks to shoot birds.
.............And don't you dare flash that obscene gesture Dick.
.............And don't you dare flash that obscene gesture Dick.
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Originally Posted by xs650
You obviously don't care which Dick you grab.
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Feb 24, 2006 at 10:35 PM.
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I'm surprised that nobody has asked what his dyno numbers mean. It indicates that one set is in second gear - why two different dyno numbers, and what gear are the others in.
Next, the A6 performance numbers should be very close to the MN6. Early runs indicate that it is going to be close. There have not been enough run yet to consider them to be representative. But we've had at least a couple in the 12's.
Now, lets be honest, not many of us can really feel the difference between a 12.6 run and a 12.8 run. My point being that if he thinks his car is so slow it can't pull his mother out of a pot, then do you really thing he should have bought a MN6? Hell, any car that runs below 13.0 should feel fast. But speed is a relative thing, and is often measured against expectations. There have been lot's of posts over the past 18 months saying that the C6 does not feel that fast, but some of the same drivers have run fast 1/4 mile times, and have stayed with C5 Z06's that "feel" a lot faster.
I don't really think we know what the real issue with this gentleman's car is yet.
Next, the A6 performance numbers should be very close to the MN6. Early runs indicate that it is going to be close. There have not been enough run yet to consider them to be representative. But we've had at least a couple in the 12's.
Now, lets be honest, not many of us can really feel the difference between a 12.6 run and a 12.8 run. My point being that if he thinks his car is so slow it can't pull his mother out of a pot, then do you really thing he should have bought a MN6? Hell, any car that runs below 13.0 should feel fast. But speed is a relative thing, and is often measured against expectations. There have been lot's of posts over the past 18 months saying that the C6 does not feel that fast, but some of the same drivers have run fast 1/4 mile times, and have stayed with C5 Z06's that "feel" a lot faster.
I don't really think we know what the real issue with this gentleman's car is yet.
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Originally Posted by jschindler
I'm surprised that nobody has asked what his dyno numbers mean. It indicates that one set is in second gear - why two different dyno numbers, and what gear are the others in.
Next, the A6 performance numbers should be very close to the MN6. Early runs indicate that it is going to be close. There have not been enough run yet to consider them to be representative. But we've had at least a couple in the 12's.
Now, lets be honest, not many of us can really feel the difference between a 12.6 run and a 12.8 run. My point being that if he thinks his car is so slow it can't pull his mother out of a pot, then do you really thing he should have bought a MN6? .......
Next, the A6 performance numbers should be very close to the MN6. Early runs indicate that it is going to be close. There have not been enough run yet to consider them to be representative. But we've had at least a couple in the 12's.
Now, lets be honest, not many of us can really feel the difference between a 12.6 run and a 12.8 run. My point being that if he thinks his car is so slow it can't pull his mother out of a pot, then do you really thing he should have bought a MN6? .......
First
2.97x3.42=10.16
4.02x2.56=10.29
Second:
2.07x3.42=7.08
2.36x2.56=6.04
Third:
1.43x3.42=4.89
1.53x2.56=3.92
Fourth
1.00x3.42=3.42
1.15x2.56=2.94
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From: Pasadena, CA
Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
The loss you take on the trade in will pale in comparison to the "mod money" you are going to have to spend to get that car up to snuff. Not to mention the warranty issues after you mod it.
with what Fred said here...
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
We're not saying that he should have bought just any MN6. We are saying that he should have bought an MN6 Z51.
First
2.97x3.42=10.16
4.02x2.56=10.29
Second:
2.07x3.42=7.08
2.36x2.56=6.04
Third:
1.43x3.42=4.89
1.53x2.56=3.92
Fourth
1.00x3.42=3.42
1.15x2.56=2.94
First
2.97x3.42=10.16
4.02x2.56=10.29
Second:
2.07x3.42=7.08
2.36x2.56=6.04
Third:
1.43x3.42=4.89
1.53x2.56=3.92
Fourth
1.00x3.42=3.42
1.15x2.56=2.94
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Originally Posted by jschindler
You seem to have missed my point. You can compare it to a base, F55, or Z51 MN6 if you want. My point is that according to all reliable inforation, they all should be within 1/10th of each other in the 1/4 mile.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...&postcount=351
Indeed it is the most reliable real world information to be found to date.
Originally Posted by JSchindler
1/10th is not enough to feel the difference.
Originally Posted by JSchindler
He's complaining about it "feeling" slow, not about the fact that he's 1/10 slower than a Z51, or any other C6.
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
Which could be part of the reason why he was contemplating a gear change. But whatever he is "complaining" about, you spend that much money on a new car and you want what you thought you paid for.
Even if he had the kidney belt special, it wouldn't make much differance.
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Originally Posted by jschindler
I'm surprised that nobody has asked what his dyno numbers mean. It indicates that one set is in second gear - why two different dyno numbers, and what gear are the others in.
Next, the A6 performance numbers should be very close to the MN6. Early runs indicate that it is going to be close. There have not been enough run yet to consider them to be representative. But we've had at least a couple in the 12's.
Now, lets be honest, not many of us can really feel the difference between a 12.6 run and a 12.8 run. My point being that if he thinks his car is so slow it can't pull his mother out of a pot, then do you really thing he should have bought a MN6? Hell, any car that runs below 13.0 should feel fast. But speed is a relative thing, and is often measured against expectations. There have been lot's of posts over the past 18 months saying that the C6 does not feel that fast, but some of the same drivers have run fast 1/4 mile times, and have stayed with C5 Z06's that "feel" a lot faster.
I don't really think we know what the real issue with this gentleman's car is yet.
Next, the A6 performance numbers should be very close to the MN6. Early runs indicate that it is going to be close. There have not been enough run yet to consider them to be representative. But we've had at least a couple in the 12's.
Now, lets be honest, not many of us can really feel the difference between a 12.6 run and a 12.8 run. My point being that if he thinks his car is so slow it can't pull his mother out of a pot, then do you really thing he should have bought a MN6? Hell, any car that runs below 13.0 should feel fast. But speed is a relative thing, and is often measured against expectations. There have been lot's of posts over the past 18 months saying that the C6 does not feel that fast, but some of the same drivers have run fast 1/4 mile times, and have stayed with C5 Z06's that "feel" a lot faster.
I don't really think we know what the real issue with this gentleman's car is yet.