Corvette Interior
Melting Slicks
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Probably because the opposite is in fact true.
The CTS-V package cost is amortized over the CTS program. In 2007 and 2008 that program sold 57,029 and 58,774 cars respectively.
In contrast the Corvette program sold 33,685 and 26,971 cars respectively. As you can see there is a significant disparity between the sales volume of the CTS and that of the Corvette. In 2008 CTS sales more than doubled those of the Vette.
You're rarer than you may think. In 2008 the overall percentage of Corvette buyers who put their money where there mouth is in ponying up for the offered nicer interior package was 4%.
The specific breakdown was 3.8% for the regular body Vette which is the sales leader. Then 7% for the more expensive convertible version. For the spendier Z06 owners it was 18.9%. So it is always amusing to me to hear people say they want "nicer" interiors when so few seem willing and able to actually pay what that would cost. Hat's off to you.
What do you think these "better seats" would cost and how did you come to that conclusion? How much would you pay at maximum?
I believe this to be true based on an interesting conversation I recently had with a supplier. Recession changed everything.
Has there been a problem with the Vette's brakes? Genuinely puzzled as this Car and Driver test (note what became of the Brembos on a competing car) seems to suggest that they are fairly capable.
I have read several Corvette tests and don't recall seeing complaints about the brakes.
The CTS-V package cost is amortized over the CTS program. In 2007 and 2008 that program sold 57,029 and 58,774 cars respectively.
In contrast the Corvette program sold 33,685 and 26,971 cars respectively. As you can see there is a significant disparity between the sales volume of the CTS and that of the Corvette. In 2008 CTS sales more than doubled those of the Vette.
You're rarer than you may think. In 2008 the overall percentage of Corvette buyers who put their money where there mouth is in ponying up for the offered nicer interior package was 4%.
The specific breakdown was 3.8% for the regular body Vette which is the sales leader. Then 7% for the more expensive convertible version. For the spendier Z06 owners it was 18.9%. So it is always amusing to me to hear people say they want "nicer" interiors when so few seem willing and able to actually pay what that would cost. Hat's off to you.
What do you think these "better seats" would cost and how did you come to that conclusion? How much would you pay at maximum?
I believe this to be true based on an interesting conversation I recently had with a supplier. Recession changed everything.
Has there been a problem with the Vette's brakes? Genuinely puzzled as this Car and Driver test (note what became of the Brembos on a competing car) seems to suggest that they are fairly capable.
I have read several Corvette tests and don't recall seeing complaints about the brakes.
I would be willing to pay $3,000.00 or more for seats with proven good lateral support. I would prefer this to a comfortable "Lazy Boy" seat and would be willing to pay for it.
Can you make this happen or is this just a rhetorical question?
Last edited by turmat; Mar 9, 2009 at 08:19 PM.
Racer
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Has there been a problem with the Vette's brakes? Genuinely puzzled as this Car and Driver test (note what became of the Brembos on a competing car) seems to suggest that they are fairly capable.
I have read several Corvette tests and don't recall seeing complaints about the brakes.
I have read several Corvette tests and don't recall seeing complaints about the brakes.
Excellent article, BTW. Thanks for finding it.
Last edited by FM; Mar 9, 2009 at 07:29 PM.
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Not sure what makes you think the Porsche designs are cheap, but again I suppose that is subjective. What I can tell you is that a 4LT vette, which will run about as much as a base 997, still has a far uglier interior to me. It isn't about the leather, but covering crap with leather doesn't make it any better. My issue has always been with the controls, guages, and general appearance. Covering it with leather, while it helps, is far from a solution.
Enjoy your "beetle" because that is what most Porsches look like. As top gear says, they have no imagination in the design department. The Boxster gets confused from the front to rear and the Cayman shows Porsches lack of imagination. Enjoy your P car and Acura but please don't complain about the economy.
Melting Slicks
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You really don't have a clue about car prices. Find a 911, even a base one that stickers in the $50s. Maybe a Cayman S before you throw in the mandatory options. A 911 starts around $76k which is $22k more than I paid for my 4LT with options. What did Porsche do with that $22k?
Enjoy your "beetle" because that is what most Porsches look like. As top gear says, they have no imagination in the design department. The Boxster gets confused from the front to rear and the Cayman shows Porsches lack of imagination. Enjoy your P car and Acura but please don't complain about the economy.
Enjoy your "beetle" because that is what most Porsches look like. As top gear says, they have no imagination in the design department. The Boxster gets confused from the front to rear and the Cayman shows Porsches lack of imagination. Enjoy your P car and Acura but please don't complain about the economy.
Extremely well said.
Le Mans Master
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From: Philadephia, Nashville, Kiawah PA, TN, SC
The design of the Porsche is very cheap because they steal designs from VW. It really is that simple. Porsche is a well built car with decent interior even though it lacks anything special. Porsche is a poorly designed car when it comes to styling. It is just a very bland and unattractive car for the money. And that is sad. Porsche owners should demand better styling. Otherwise they end up with just a supped up VW.
I'm not kidding when many people believe the Porsche is a VW. I'm not the first that has said that nor the last. The Vette on the other hand would never be confused for any other car.
The 4LT leather is of very high quality and does more than just cover plastic.
I think you are being disingenuous about comparing the Vette to the Camaro or Firebird. And also not completely honest about a Porsche not being confused for a VW. You are really only be dishonest to yourself. On both accounts I'm certain only a few people on this forum would agree with you. And they most likely do not own nor could afford a Vette.
It never ceases to amaze me as to why someone would spend time on a forum of a car they do not like or think is cheap. I could easily go on a Porsche forum and write how I think the car looks like a VW. But why?
I'm not kidding when many people believe the Porsche is a VW. I'm not the first that has said that nor the last. The Vette on the other hand would never be confused for any other car.
The 4LT leather is of very high quality and does more than just cover plastic.
I think you are being disingenuous about comparing the Vette to the Camaro or Firebird. And also not completely honest about a Porsche not being confused for a VW. You are really only be dishonest to yourself. On both accounts I'm certain only a few people on this forum would agree with you. And they most likely do not own nor could afford a Vette.
It never ceases to amaze me as to why someone would spend time on a forum of a car they do not like or think is cheap. I could easily go on a Porsche forum and write how I think the car looks like a VW. But why?
They steal design elements from VW? Are you kidding? Porsche designs are pretty unique, I will admit they don't change much but that is because of the unique look and heritage they are trying to maintain, that either works for you or it doesn't. It is awfully subjective and thats fine. I like it and think it is just as appearling as the exterior design of a corvette, maybe a bit more but not much. As for it being a souped up VW, thats funny since their engines, suspensions, and transmissions share about zero common parts, and a completely different design philosophy (rear engine, rear drive, mid engine rear drive etc). Obviously there is alot of overlap there..... yea...
Like I said, I have had both vettes and Pcars, never had a porsche confused, but have had 5-6 circumstances where people didn't know the vette was a vette. The 4LT leather package is high quality? No, I am sorry it is nothing resembling high quality. It is better than GM average, but it is a far cry from high quality.
Lastly, you continue to miss my point. You attack my credibility as though I have come here to make up stories to support an argument. I have told you that I can and have owned both cars, and am currently shopping for the next car, which is why I have been looking around debating whether or not I want a vette again. The car has advantages and disadvantages as all cars do, but that is not to say that a Corvette is a unique car, far from, and people do confuse them all the time, and in my experience that has not happened with the 911's I have owned.
I personally liked the fact that you come out and try to attack people who can't afford a Vette? Are you kidding? These cars cost less than SUV's nowadays. Between massive sticker price discounting, cheap financing, and a used car market that is selling them for even larger depreciation hits a college kid can buy one.
Le Mans Master
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From: Philadephia, Nashville, Kiawah PA, TN, SC
You really don't have a clue about car prices. Find a 911, even a base one that stickers in the $50s. Maybe a Cayman S before you throw in the mandatory options. A 911 starts around $76k which is $22k more than I paid for my 4LT with options. What did Porsche do with that $22k?
Enjoy your "beetle" because that is what most Porsches look like. As top gear says, they have no imagination in the design department. The Boxster gets confused from the front to rear and the Cayman shows Porsches lack of imagination. Enjoy your P car and Acura but please don't complain about the economy.
Enjoy your "beetle" because that is what most Porsches look like. As top gear says, they have no imagination in the design department. The Boxster gets confused from the front to rear and the Cayman shows Porsches lack of imagination. Enjoy your P car and Acura but please don't complain about the economy.
As for pricing, you contradicted yourself pretty quickly. Is a base 911 50k or 76k? It is really 79k... but that is besides the point. Caymans should get confused with Boxsters because they are simply the coupe version of the car, why wouldn't that happen. I bet convertible corvettes are still confused with coupes.....
Lastly, why do people get so bent out of shape about criticism of an inanimate object they had nothing to do with the construction of. It is a car, I will critique a corvette and a pcar just as quickly.
And the economy is great from where I sit, little effect really except a greater purchasing power if you have cash.
Le Mans Master
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From: Philadephia, Nashville, Kiawah PA, TN, SC
Probably because the opposite is in fact true.
The CTS-V package cost is amortized over the CTS program. In 2007 and 2008 that program sold 57,029 and 58,774 cars respectively.
In contrast the Corvette program sold 33,685 and 26,971 cars respectively. As you can see there is a significant disparity between the sales volume of the CTS and that of the Corvette. In 2008 CTS sales more than doubled those of the Vette.
You're rarer than you may think. In 2008 the overall percentage of Corvette buyers who put their money where there mouth is in ponying up for the offered nicer interior package was 4%.
The specific breakdown was 3.8% for the regular body Vette which is the sales leader. Then 7% for the more expensive convertible version. For the spendier Z06 owners it was 18.9%. So it is always amusing to me to hear people say they want "nicer" interiors when so few seem willing and able to actually pay what that would cost. Hat's off to you.
What do you think these "better seats" would cost and how did you come to that conclusion? How much would you pay at maximum?
I believe this to be true based on an interesting conversation I recently had with a supplier. Recession changed everything.
Has there been a problem with the Vette's brakes? Genuinely puzzled as this Car and Driver test (note what became of the Brembos on a competing car) seems to suggest that they are fairly capable.
I have read several Corvette tests and don't recall seeing complaints about the brakes.
The CTS-V package cost is amortized over the CTS program. In 2007 and 2008 that program sold 57,029 and 58,774 cars respectively.
In contrast the Corvette program sold 33,685 and 26,971 cars respectively. As you can see there is a significant disparity between the sales volume of the CTS and that of the Corvette. In 2008 CTS sales more than doubled those of the Vette.
You're rarer than you may think. In 2008 the overall percentage of Corvette buyers who put their money where there mouth is in ponying up for the offered nicer interior package was 4%.
The specific breakdown was 3.8% for the regular body Vette which is the sales leader. Then 7% for the more expensive convertible version. For the spendier Z06 owners it was 18.9%. So it is always amusing to me to hear people say they want "nicer" interiors when so few seem willing and able to actually pay what that would cost. Hat's off to you.
What do you think these "better seats" would cost and how did you come to that conclusion? How much would you pay at maximum?
I believe this to be true based on an interesting conversation I recently had with a supplier. Recession changed everything.
Has there been a problem with the Vette's brakes? Genuinely puzzled as this Car and Driver test (note what became of the Brembos on a competing car) seems to suggest that they are fairly capable.
I have read several Corvette tests and don't recall seeing complaints about the brakes.
Spend another grand or two and you can revamp a dash and put real "sport" seats into the car. Do they need to be Recaro, no, but give them a real sport look to them and put some decent coverings on them instead of cheap vinyl leatherette that is so thin it stretches.
Melting Slicks
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...n-the-zr1.html
See post 1 for your seat then post 34 for pricing which looks like it's noticeably above your base guess. PM me your details and I will get you started right away. Please post pictures when done so others can see what they are missing.
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Melting Slicks
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Rhetorical? Not at all and I can most definitely make it happen.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...n-the-zr1.html
See post 1 for your seat then post 34 for pricing which looks like it's noticeably above your base guess. PM me your details and I will get you started right away. Please post pictures when done so others can see what they are missing.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...n-the-zr1.html
See post 1 for your seat then post 34 for pricing which looks like it's noticeably above your base guess. PM me your details and I will get you started right away. Please post pictures when done so others can see what they are missing.
Melting Slicks
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They steal design elements from VW? Are you kidding? Porsche designs are pretty unique, I will admit they don't change much but that is because of the unique look and heritage they are trying to maintain, that either works for you or it doesn't. It is awfully subjective and thats fine. I like it and think it is just as appearling as the exterior design of a corvette, maybe a bit more but not much. As for it being a souped up VW, thats funny since their engines, suspensions, and transmissions share about zero common parts, and a completely different design philosophy (rear engine, rear drive, mid engine rear drive etc). Obviously there is alot of overlap there..... yea...
Like I said, I have had both vettes and Pcars, never had a porsche confused, but have had 5-6 circumstances where people didn't know the vette was a vette. The 4LT leather package is high quality? No, I am sorry it is nothing resembling high quality. It is better than GM average, but it is a far cry from high quality.
Lastly, you continue to miss my point. You attack my credibility as though I have come here to make up stories to support an argument. I have told you that I can and have owned both cars, and am currently shopping for the next car, which is why I have been looking around debating whether or not I want a vette again. The car has advantages and disadvantages as all cars do, but that is not to say that a Corvette is a unique car, far from, and people do confuse them all the time, and in my experience that has not happened with the 911's I have owned.
I personally liked the fact that you come out and try to attack people who can't afford a Vette? Are you kidding? These cars cost less than SUV's nowadays. Between massive sticker price discounting, cheap financing, and a used car market that is selling them for even larger depreciation hits a college kid can buy one.
Like I said, I have had both vettes and Pcars, never had a porsche confused, but have had 5-6 circumstances where people didn't know the vette was a vette. The 4LT leather package is high quality? No, I am sorry it is nothing resembling high quality. It is better than GM average, but it is a far cry from high quality.
Lastly, you continue to miss my point. You attack my credibility as though I have come here to make up stories to support an argument. I have told you that I can and have owned both cars, and am currently shopping for the next car, which is why I have been looking around debating whether or not I want a vette again. The car has advantages and disadvantages as all cars do, but that is not to say that a Corvette is a unique car, far from, and people do confuse them all the time, and in my experience that has not happened with the 911's I have owned.
I personally liked the fact that you come out and try to attack people who can't afford a Vette? Are you kidding? These cars cost less than SUV's nowadays. Between massive sticker price discounting, cheap financing, and a used car market that is selling them for even larger depreciation hits a college kid can buy one.
And yes, the 4LT is very high quality leather. I have compared to a 08 Mercedes parked next to it every day and it stands up well. Yes, the Mercedes interior is much more plush than the Vette. But, that is the way it is supposed to be. I hope that never changes. If I want a luxury car I will buy one.
The attack people comment was cute and quite stupid. Many people including some on this thread cannot afford one. Wonder whom that may be now? To have a built in jealousy of the car because you cannot afford it or maybe a guy that dated a girlfriend of yours had one is childish. Whatever your reason for your bashing of the Vette it is very transparent that you have a built in bias. So clear you make things up.
Lastly what makes a person whom cannot afford, does not like, or does not even own a Corvette go on a forum about that car is beyond me. Like I stated earlier I do not have the time to go on a Porsche forum and tell them what they probably already know. And that is the car is a bland overpriced piece of junk that looks strikingly similar to the VW line.
By the way you have no credibility at all. So shop all you want. We have heard this shopping story before from the trolls. You really should have tried something else. I wish I had the time you do to waste.
Le Mans Master
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From: Philadephia, Nashville, Kiawah PA, TN, SC
No I'm not kidding. Unique? The Porsche? Come on now. It is very common Porsche cars are mistaken for VW's. Very Common. As a former police officer this happens quite a bit over the radio especially with female police officers and accident victims often. Face it they are not good looking cars and most people would agree. As for the Vette. I have never in all my years known anyone to mistake a Corvette for any other car. I think you are, no wait I'm sure you are being disingenuous about the Porsche not being confused for another and the Vette all the time. This is a obvious lie. Also, the more you write the more it appears as if you never owned either car.
And yes, the 4LT is very high quality leather. I have compared to a 08 Mercedes parked next to it every day and it stands up well. Yes, the Mercedes interior is much more plush than the Vette. But, that is the way it is supposed to be. I hope that never changes. If I want a luxury car I will buy one.
The attack people comment was cute and quite stupid. Many people including some on this thread cannot afford one. Wonder whom that may be now? To have a built in jealousy of the car because you cannot afford it or maybe a guy that dated a girlfriend of yours had one is childish. Whatever your reason for your bashing of the Vette it is very transparent that you have a built in bias. So clear you make things up.
Lastly what makes a person whom cannot afford, does not like, or does not even own a Corvette go on a forum about that car is beyond me. Like I stated earlier I do not have the time to go on a Porsche forum and tell them what they probably already know. And that is the car is a bland overpriced piece of junk that looks strikingly similar to the VW line.
By the way you have no credibility at all. So shop all you want. We have heard this shopping story before from the trolls. You really should have tried something else. I wish I had the time you do to waste.
And yes, the 4LT is very high quality leather. I have compared to a 08 Mercedes parked next to it every day and it stands up well. Yes, the Mercedes interior is much more plush than the Vette. But, that is the way it is supposed to be. I hope that never changes. If I want a luxury car I will buy one.
The attack people comment was cute and quite stupid. Many people including some on this thread cannot afford one. Wonder whom that may be now? To have a built in jealousy of the car because you cannot afford it or maybe a guy that dated a girlfriend of yours had one is childish. Whatever your reason for your bashing of the Vette it is very transparent that you have a built in bias. So clear you make things up.
Lastly what makes a person whom cannot afford, does not like, or does not even own a Corvette go on a forum about that car is beyond me. Like I stated earlier I do not have the time to go on a Porsche forum and tell them what they probably already know. And that is the car is a bland overpriced piece of junk that looks strikingly similar to the VW line.
By the way you have no credibility at all. So shop all you want. We have heard this shopping story before from the trolls. You really should have tried something else. I wish I had the time you do to waste.
Call me names all you want, it only makes you look like the insecure and insecure tool. Truth is we have differing opinions about certain aspects of the car, not once did I say a Corvette was a bad car, but that it instead is lacking in certain departments, as all cars do. You insisted on turning criticism of an object into a personal argument.
So seriously, go spend your time harassing high school kids behind your nickel plated badge where you can feel like a big man outside the internet. Otherwise it is simply boring.
Melting Slicks
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Melting Slicks
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Ok, a LEO, so you obviously are Matlock I see, just like every other towny cop in the world. You can say whatever you want and believe whatever you want and try to attack your way out of the bag, but I have zero to gain by saying I have experienced corvettes being mistaken for a variety of cars, but never had the experience with a 911, but I have had that experience with a 968.
Call me names all you want, it only makes you look like the insecure and insecure tool. Truth is we have differing opinions about certain aspects of the car, not once did I say a Corvette was a bad car, but that it instead is lacking in certain departments, as all cars do. You insisted on turning criticism of an object into a personal argument.
So seriously, go spend your time harassing high school kids behind your nickel plated badge where you can feel like a big man outside the internet. Otherwise it is simply boring.
Call me names all you want, it only makes you look like the insecure and insecure tool. Truth is we have differing opinions about certain aspects of the car, not once did I say a Corvette was a bad car, but that it instead is lacking in certain departments, as all cars do. You insisted on turning criticism of an object into a personal argument.
So seriously, go spend your time harassing high school kids behind your nickel plated badge where you can feel like a big man outside the internet. Otherwise it is simply boring.
You have some problems with your credibility and you attack me. You are not taken seriously with your obvious lies and foolish bashing of the Corvette. And I'm the bad guy?
Out here in Chicago where I worked the kids carry knives and guns to high school and even middle school. Even with metal detectors at school the kids get them in. You bet I spent time near the high schools in Chicago where innocent children have been caught up and even killed in gang crossfire. My former partner and I recovered more guns from high school kids than many small gun shops have. You have no clue what you are writing about in any of your posts.
So once again your personal attacks and your information is misguided at best. You obviously have some personal issues, jealousy issues and anger built up inside. I sincerely hope you find help.
Le Mans Master
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From: Philadephia, Nashville, Kiawah PA, TN, SC
You have some problems with your credibility and you attack me. You are not taken seriously with your obvious lies and foolish bashing of the Corvette. And I'm the bad guy?
Out here in Chicago where I worked the kids carry knives and guns to high school and even middle school. Even with metal detectors at school the kids get them in. You bet I spent time near the high schools in Chicago where innocent children have been caught up and even killed in gang crossfire. My former partner and I recovered more guns from high school kids than many small gun shops have. You have no clue what you are writing about in any of your posts.
So once again your personal attacks and your information is misguided at best. You obviously have some personal issues, jealousy issues and anger built up inside. I sincerely hope you find help.
Out here in Chicago where I worked the kids carry knives and guns to high school and even middle school. Even with metal detectors at school the kids get them in. You bet I spent time near the high schools in Chicago where innocent children have been caught up and even killed in gang crossfire. My former partner and I recovered more guns from high school kids than many small gun shops have. You have no clue what you are writing about in any of your posts.
So once again your personal attacks and your information is misguided at best. You obviously have some personal issues, jealousy issues and anger built up inside. I sincerely hope you find help.
Out here in Chicago, please stop reminiscing about the good ole' days. I could give two craps what you did with a bunch of kids from the hood. Your attitude here is the percieved stereotype of LEO's, that you are always right, never wrong, and the second that is questioned out comes the night stick. Please, continue to brag about being a cop... seriously, re-read that.
I don't have a problem with LEO's in any respect, despite my frequent speeding tickets, as they are doing a valuable job. However I do have a problem with some gloating, pompous, self righteous tool who comes here talking about how he is a hero for taking a .380 from a 12 year old. Do us all a favor and go save the world and stop pulling threads miles off topic through misguided rants.
Jeeeeeeesus.
Melting Slicks
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My comments were reference to options that GM could offer on new car buys. It would be awfully nice to be able to get Recaro seats or if it turns you on, Brembo brakes as a "check this box" option.
I long for the days when this was possible.
Melting Slicks
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What does any of this have to do with the topic, seriously? This was a comment on the "Interior of the Corvette". Not a pissing contest, so relax and go taser someone.
Out here in Chicago, please stop reminiscing about the good ole' days. I could give two craps what you did with a bunch of kids from the hood. Your attitude here is the percieved stereotype of LEO's, that you are always right, never wrong, and the second that is questioned out comes the night stick. Please, continue to brag about being a cop... seriously, re-read that.
I don't have a problem with LEO's in any respect, despite my frequent speeding tickets, as they are doing a valuable job. However I do have a problem with some gloating, pompous, self righteous tool who comes here talking about how he is a hero for taking a .380 from a 12 year old. Do us all a favor and go save the world and stop pulling threads miles off topic through misguided rants.
Jeeeeeeesus.
Out here in Chicago, please stop reminiscing about the good ole' days. I could give two craps what you did with a bunch of kids from the hood. Your attitude here is the percieved stereotype of LEO's, that you are always right, never wrong, and the second that is questioned out comes the night stick. Please, continue to brag about being a cop... seriously, re-read that.
I don't have a problem with LEO's in any respect, despite my frequent speeding tickets, as they are doing a valuable job. However I do have a problem with some gloating, pompous, self righteous tool who comes here talking about how he is a hero for taking a .380 from a 12 year old. Do us all a favor and go save the world and stop pulling threads miles off topic through misguided rants.
Jeeeeeeesus.
I really hope you seek out help. I mean that sincerely.
One other point. I only brought up the fact I was a P.O. to illustrate the fact many people confuse the Porsche with a VW. Then you thought it was best to belittle a P.O.'s work and tell me to harrass some high school kids. I was hoping to teach you a lesson about high school kids and the fact that they carry guns and shoot innocent children. Your response that you do not care about kids from the hood shows how sick you truly are. And illustrates to everyone you need serious psychiatric help. There is help out there and often it is free. I strongly urge you to seek it out. Instead of using your computer and time to bash a car you do not own or maybe cannot afford. Use it more constructively and seek out the help you so clearly need. Just google psychiatric help in your area and you will find the help you need. Good luck and I hope you get better. I really do.
Last edited by Never Say Never; Mar 10, 2009 at 04:06 PM.
Le Mans Master
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I could not of even dreamed you would have made my point clearer about your needing of some very serious help. You very clearly have issues with anger, respect, life, and the truth.
I really hope you seek out help. I mean that sincerely.
One other point. I only brought up the fact I was a P.O. to illustrate the fact many people confuse the Porsche with a VW. Then you thought it was best to belittle a P.O.'s work and tell me to harrass some high school kids. I was hoping to teach you a lesson about high school kids and the fact that they carry guns and shoot innocent children. Your response that you do not care about kids from the hood shows how sick you truly are. And illustrates to everyone you need serious psychiatric help. There is help out there and often it is free. I strongly urge you to seek it out. Instead of using your computer and time to bash a car you do not own or maybe cannot afford. Use it more constructively and seek out the help you so clearly need. Just google psychiatric help in your area and you will find the help you need. Good luck and I hope you get better. I really do.
I really hope you seek out help. I mean that sincerely.
One other point. I only brought up the fact I was a P.O. to illustrate the fact many people confuse the Porsche with a VW. Then you thought it was best to belittle a P.O.'s work and tell me to harrass some high school kids. I was hoping to teach you a lesson about high school kids and the fact that they carry guns and shoot innocent children. Your response that you do not care about kids from the hood shows how sick you truly are. And illustrates to everyone you need serious psychiatric help. There is help out there and often it is free. I strongly urge you to seek it out. Instead of using your computer and time to bash a car you do not own or maybe cannot afford. Use it more constructively and seek out the help you so clearly need. Just google psychiatric help in your area and you will find the help you need. Good luck and I hope you get better. I really do.
I wasn't belittling LEO's, just you and your pompous swagger that most of the bad cops walk around with. Then again, I guess that is why they say most of the cops were the unpopular bullied kids in school struggling for the appearance of authority. Please stop ruining someone elses thread with your drivel. Resume frisking kids at the mall.
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I think that is what they really need. Spent another 500$-1000% at the factory to throw a CTS quality dash in the car with a few interior options like upgraded seats and upgraded trim. Then the cars appearance can match its performance #'s.