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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Vette Guy
To the OP... Are you windows tinted???
Personally, I think HOV lanes are bullsh*t, they only cause more traffic and more exhaust and they just don't work... They took them off of I-287 in NJ years ago. Then again, that's about the ONLY thing they ever got right in that state.....
For real?

If my wife works from home, or has the day off, I don't go to work. Traffic is THAT bad here, and we leave at 5:00 in the morning. I know it's hard to comprehend people from three states driving towards the same place everyday.

Just for fun, pick any camera between 4:30 p.m. and 8:00 p.m:

http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS/
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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This might be a stupid idea, and a pain in the ****, but how about the wife (I assume you're driving) putting on a lightweight hat that won't mess up her hair, like a straw hat?

With the way the back of the seats come up on the Vette, I guess it is hard to tell.

Originally Posted by Rule292
Fixed! To the uninitiated, Route 66 in Northern VA has been HOV for probably 30 years
Thanks Rule292, I was mystified,...I even had to look up HOV on Google to know what that is. High Occupancy Vehicles...could they think of a more unwieldly term?
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Lots of stupid in this thread!
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Auto $417 fine here in San Diego CA for Expressway/HOV use without 2 people. You bet it's a revenue issue!
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rule292
Fixed!

To the uninitiated, Route 66 in Northern VA has been HOV for probably 30 years and has likely been paid for 2x over with the HOV violation fines that have been given out over the past 30 or so years. Ditto for I395 and the Dulles tol road, also HOV.

Usual thing is to see a 3 to 6 police cars at the "main" entrance like at the beltway and 66 and at least one local car at each local entrance ramp. For added revenue, the beginning of the month brings additional scrutiny of windshields for expired county personal property decals.

Catching folks either knowingly or unknowingly violating or chancing the HOV law is as easy as taking candy from a baby. And I believe it is considered a moving violation, so expect jacked up insurance and points.

Easy money here!
The I-66 HOV isn't separated from the main traffic like it is on I-95/395. The POs sit in the breaks of the jersey barriers watching oncoming traffic. Not to be a dick, but they observe oncoming traffic in well lit areas. Front windows can't be tinted, you can't lay back in the C6, so pulling someone over without a visual just seems novice to me.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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I could understand this happening once. No big deal, we all can make mistakes. Now again with the same officer for supposedly the same infraction??? With him saying that he remembers you as well. I'm a little suspicious at this time now.

If this happens a third time you are being targeted by this officer, period. For whatever reasons unknown. I sure hope it doesn't happen to you again. If so, get his name, badge and file a complaint with his supervisor and department.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lander
Lots of stupid in this thread!
Yes, there is, as there are in lot of threads, but I ask you, does negativity add or subtract that?
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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You mean drive with the top down. It was 37 degrees this morning.

Wimp.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iridelow
Sounds like you judge everyone by the acts of one person! Walk in the shoes of another, before you voice your useless opinion of anyone. The remark highlighted in red above, is why this country is going down hill fast. Unless you have served in the military, served as a LEO, Firefighter, EMT or other life threatening job, you should keep your liberal mouth shut! Sorry if I was harsh, but you sound like just a punk with no idea what;s coming from your mouth. I hope I'm wrong and you are just having a bad day, but please think before you speak. If everyone had your attitude toward LEO's, life in the US would be like a third world country. By the way, I have seen some bad pilots in my day, but most are very well trained and I respect what they do and would never bad mouth them all for the actions of a few.
PLEASE tell us all HOW you can tell if a Pilot is Bad???? Did you crash??? Maybe it is your LEO instinct....
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He was just doing his job and that is what he get paid for. You really do not have a complaint the way I see it.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by obxchartercaptain
PLEASE tell us all HOW you can tell if a Pilot is Bad???? Did you crash??? Maybe it is your LEO instinct....
The same way many people "here" that a LEO is bad...THE FREAKEN NEWS! Lets see...Pilots sleeping, pilots drinking before or during flights...Come on, it's not normal, as I said most are very professional and do a great job! But as a passenger on a plane, we don't have direct contact with pilots, so we only know what the news reports. LEO's are always on the front page of the news paper when they do anything that is suspect, plus they don't make many friends writting tickets, even when that's there job! I'm not bashing pilots, just saying every profession has it's bad apples plus, I'm sure most pilots are paid and trained better in their profession than LEO's are! I admit, many LEO's are under trained and they are expected to never make mistakes!
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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When the Leo's lights come on just wave out both windows. Surely he would not think your arms were long enough to pull that off by yourself.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jsims002
The I-66 HOV isn't separated from the main traffic like it is on I-95/395. The POs sit in the breaks of the jersey barriers watching oncoming traffic. Not to be a dick, but they observe oncoming traffic in well lit areas. Front windows can't be tinted, you can't lay back in the C6, so pulling someone over without a visual just seems novice to me.
You still didn't mention if you side or rear window is tinted....

So, let me go out on a limb here... Let's for a moment say that the sides and rear is tinted (even a slight bit), the LEO in question is looking at oncoming traffic, so he is facing South bound. You're heading North bound (headed towards DC) and the sun is facing you, (or behind the the LEO). You being the typical Vette driver, you keep your windows nice and clean, right?

Well then, when you're driving towards the LEO, with the sun gleaming off the front windshield and the darkened windows behind it, your front windshield becomes like a mirror and he really can't get a good look inside, when you're coming at him. If the windows are tinted, he also can't get a good look inside as you drive by either.... That's why he told you to turn on the interior light.

That isn't some "code" for him not to pull you over.... It's for him to equalize the outside light and see inside your car. He would know all about that, because he knows that a two-way mirror (like what they have between an interrogation room and the room "they" hang out in, looking at you), only works if the "hangout room" is dark. If they turn on the lights, then you could faintly see them, in their room.

I know DC traffic all too well.... I've "commuted" there from NYC, NJ and now occassionally from here in CT. Only 2:15 to Baltimore, 1/2 hour through the tunnel and then what should only be about 20 minutes to DC could take "forever" depending on how I try to get into town... I-95, 66, the Beltway into Bethesda and local streets or the Baltimore/ Washington Pkwy to New York Ave.... Yeah, I know DC.... You can keep it.
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Originally Posted by iridelow
Sounds like you judge everyone by the acts of one person! Walk in the shoes of another, before you voice your useless opinion of anyone. The remark highlighted in red above, is why this country is going down hill fast. Unless you have served in the military, served as a LEO, Firefighter, EMT or other life threatening job, you should keep your liberal mouth shut! Sorry if I was harsh, but you sound like just a punk with no idea what;s coming from your mouth. I hope I'm wrong and you are just having a bad day, but please think before you speak. If everyone had your attitude toward LEO's, life in the US would be like a third world country. By the way, I have seen some bad pilots in my day, but most are very well trained and I respect what they do and would never bad mouth them all for the actions of a few.
Thank You.. you said much more "Diplomatically than I would have...!

I wont tell the "Dip S**T how to fly a plane, and he shouldn't tell LEO how to do their jobs !!
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by obxchartercaptain
PLEASE tell us all HOW you can tell if a Pilot is Bad???? Did you crash??? Maybe it is your LEO instinct....
Maybe you forgot how to pilot a boat...keep you rudder in the water!!

How do we know if you'll get lost in the channel... in case you forgot

Do you remember the ferry boat captain that ran into the pier in NY killing a few.... what school did he go to ??

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth9883
That's not his job. His job is to PROTECT and SERVE. Pulling someone over in heavy traffic is more dangerous so he is definitely not protecting.

It seems to me that LEO lately are purely there to generate revenue and keep city workers employed. My respect for LEO is at 0% I have only gotten pulled over once and it was my fault, but it makes me curious when I see 5 cop cars lined up waiting for people to make the same mistake I did. Seems to me they know there is confusion on the road and they take advantage of it.

Someone needs to do something with this country before we have CCTV everyone and we start talking with an accent.

I love this country just as much as anyone but the government is TO BIG and no one cares. The government should be scared of the people, not the other way around.

He was doing his job and it sounded like he did it well and you are way off base.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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He should have verified there was not two people in the car. Would he do the same thing for a SUV with a child in the back seat? He is harassing you for some reason as he remembers you and it sounds like you are in a busy city.

They are doing away with the HOV lane here in SLC also. The HOV lane is designed to be faster. If you don't want to idle in traffic, car pool. They are thinking about charging people to use the HOV lane that is left here. Basically you pay a toll if you want to get home quicker.
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Originally Posted by SUB VETTE
Auto $417 fine here in San Diego CA for Expressway/HOV use without 2 people. You bet it's a revenue issue!
And it's a revenue issue in NoVA. AND THE COPS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND NO CHOICE IN IT.

The governmental entities are the ones that push for zero tolerance heavy handed enforcement of the HOV laws NOT THE COPS.

The corrupt part is (or at least was when I lived there years ago) the fact that HOV violations were considered moving violations that carried points and insurance hikes. Patently dishonest, since the laws purpose is an environmental one that has nothing to do with safety.

Neverthess, I was prudent and saw the ripoff and heeded the law.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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With all the bitching about revenue...can anyone tell me if "ANY LEO makes more $$ if he give out more summons... I never heard of a cop getting a % of the money he brings in via summons...

So why would any LEO want to give a summons for revenue.. he ain't getting anything out of it !!
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Originally Posted by phileaglesfan
They are thinking about charging people to use the HOV lane that is left here. Basically you pay a toll if you want to get home quicker.
That is rediculous.....

Most highways were designed and built in the 1950's (Interstate Highway System was named after Ike). Back then there wasn't half the population there is today. Most highways are three lanes afairs that need to be at least eight lanes.... Especially here in the greater NYC area. By trying to force people to commute via mass transit or car pools, is really very impractical, because more and more people are force into the suburbs for affordable housing, as compared to city dwellings and there are not as many options to use car pools or mass transit.

By constricting effectively three lanes to two lanes with HOV, you are choking the highways and creating worse traffic jams, introducing more carbon into the air (if you really worry about that kind of stuff) and making a long commute even longer. NJ did away with HOV lanes and other states should follow suit too.

Personally, I get to work from home most days and the rest, I commute by commercial airline. But on the rare days I need to be in the city by 9:00AM, I'm up at Dawn's crack, just to get there on time.... Fu*k that noise.....
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