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Burning Brakes
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Great feedback! 
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To the original poster - Please visit www.callawaycars.com for more info on our cars/packages
We build Powerfully Engineered Automobiles which aside from being Seriously Fast, they are rock solid, reliable and with Callaway's peerless support and Powertrain Warranty, you have the assurance the car will do what it is supposed to do - and not disappoint
We hope to here from you
BTW, I drive daily, our 2010 Grand Sport which has well over 63,000 miles on the car! Driven rigorously, yet intelligently! No issues!
Again, NOBODY supports their customers and product like Callaway. Peerless in the industry - you are close to our shop in Connecticut and I'd like to invite you to come see for yourself. Check us out!
Le Mans Master
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I am willing to bet that if we looked at the tuning on that car we would find that there in lies the answer to why this happened. Let a Professional shop do the tunning and not some guy with hp tunners and guaranteed this will not happen. Theres to many ls based cars out there that are f/i with no problems.
Thinking a good tune is going to let you make 50% more power than the engine was ever designed for, for ever, is like thinking a good seat belt is going to let you slam your car into a tree at 120 miles an hour and walk away. Everything has its limitations.
I'm 100% FOR supercharging. Do it. I blew mine up, I rebuilt it, it cost me a ton of money, it was a big hassle, but if I could do it all again, the only thing I would have changed is not paid the $8K+ for a forged motor. I'd have stuck another stock shortblock in there because, well, at what they go for used, I could drive for years at the rate of 30K miles per engine before I could justify the enormous hassle that forged engine turned out to be.
Aside from that, the performance of a boosted Corvette is truly spectacular, and, to me, it is worth the compromises you make in reliability. Just don't be an idiot about it and lie to yourself that it will be reliable for ever, because that is not how mechanical devices work.
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How much? Mine was tuned by arguably the best tuner here. On a dyno, and not for a HP record either.
Thinking a good tune is going to let you make 50% more power than the engine was ever designed for, for ever, is like thinking a good seat belt is going to let you slam your car into a tree at 120 miles an hour and walk away. Everything has its limitations.
If you really think those are the only two supercharged Corvettes ever to blow up you need to open your eyes. Try searching this forum a bit.
I'm 100% FOR supercharging. Do it. I blew mine up, I rebuilt it, it cost me a ton of money, it was a big hassle, but if I could do it all again, the only thing I would have changed is not paid the $8K+ for a forged motor. I'd have stuck another stock shortblock in there because, well, at what they go for used, I could drive for years at the rate of 30K miles per engine before I could justify the enormous hassle that forged engine turned out to be.
Aside from that, the performance of a boosted Corvette is truly spectacular, and, to me, it is worth the compromises you make in reliability. Just don't be an idiot about it and lie to yourself that it will be reliable for ever, because that is not how mechanical devices work.
Thinking a good tune is going to let you make 50% more power than the engine was ever designed for, for ever, is like thinking a good seat belt is going to let you slam your car into a tree at 120 miles an hour and walk away. Everything has its limitations.
If you really think those are the only two supercharged Corvettes ever to blow up you need to open your eyes. Try searching this forum a bit.
I'm 100% FOR supercharging. Do it. I blew mine up, I rebuilt it, it cost me a ton of money, it was a big hassle, but if I could do it all again, the only thing I would have changed is not paid the $8K+ for a forged motor. I'd have stuck another stock shortblock in there because, well, at what they go for used, I could drive for years at the rate of 30K miles per engine before I could justify the enormous hassle that forged engine turned out to be.
Aside from that, the performance of a boosted Corvette is truly spectacular, and, to me, it is worth the compromises you make in reliability. Just don't be an idiot about it and lie to yourself that it will be reliable for ever, because that is not how mechanical devices work.
WOW, this is one of the top posts of the year. Clear, concise, to the point, and very well stated. He's lived it and his words are of wisdom.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Drifting
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My 2 cents - I bought the S&S Vortech kit (V3) which was impressive for my 2010 GS, spent a fair price on the entire package, however 7 months later traded in my car on a 2010 Callaway SC606.
Not starting a SC war here, because by a bit, it is more expensive, but you get more back when you sell, along with the factory warranty still intact. Although I had absolutely NO TROUBLE out of my other kit, I always worried about pushing the start button and the engine not starting.
The roots style TVS kit that Callaway uses feels a good bit more torquey in the lower RPM range which is where I do most of my driving.
All good kits....many proven strong, depends on what you want.
Not starting a SC war here, because by a bit, it is more expensive, but you get more back when you sell, along with the factory warranty still intact. Although I had absolutely NO TROUBLE out of my other kit, I always worried about pushing the start button and the engine not starting.
The roots style TVS kit that Callaway uses feels a good bit more torquey in the lower RPM range which is where I do most of my driving.
All good kits....many proven strong, depends on what you want.
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Drifting
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Drifting
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I don't need a faster car sick of getting pulled over now and my courtesys are dwindling down fast !!! real fast !!! Just got the V 1 radar detector. My car doesn't go slow. Funny I was actually doing the speed limit and my daughter was complaining. She looked around and said go for it MOM no cops !!!
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Drifting
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If you want to do a FI correctly, you have to get a forged bottom end, different cam, drop the compression ratio, change the pistons to forged aluminum, get a forged crank, better piston rings and up the oiling system.
If all it took was throwing on a supercharger onto a LS3, then GM wasted a million dollars in engineering the LS9.
Do it right, you will have a reliable setup. Cut corners, you will be left with a bomb and you will be stranded on the road. Or better yet, just buy a ZR1 and save yourself the headaches.
If all it took was throwing on a supercharger onto a LS3, then GM wasted a million dollars in engineering the LS9.
Do it right, you will have a reliable setup. Cut corners, you will be left with a bomb and you will be stranded on the road. Or better yet, just buy a ZR1 and save yourself the headaches.
If I wanted a SC C6 with over 600 hp I'd buy a ZR-1 and leave it 100% stock. That means warranty. If you have enough money to afford to void your GS warranty and cover, yourself, if the engine or other parts of the drivetrain breaks THEN you should just take all that money and get the real deal up front.
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Drifting
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Precisely! After you've done all the above you might research the differences in clutch and differential between your GS and the Z06 and ZR-1. I think you'll find the Z06 is stronger than your car to handle a bit more power and that the ZR-1 is a LOT stronger than your car to handle the 638.
If I wanted a SC C6 with over 600 hp I'd buy a ZR-1 and leave it 100% stock. That means warranty. If you have enough money to afford to void your GS warranty and cover, yourself, if the engine or other parts of the drivetrain breaks THEN you should just take all that money and get the real deal up front.
If I wanted a SC C6 with over 600 hp I'd buy a ZR-1 and leave it 100% stock. That means warranty. If you have enough money to afford to void your GS warranty and cover, yourself, if the engine or other parts of the drivetrain breaks THEN you should just take all that money and get the real deal up front.
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I don't need a faster car sick of getting pulled over now and my courtesys are dwindling down fast !!! real fast !!! Just got the V 1 radar detector. My car doesn't go slow. Funny I was actually doing the speed limit and my daughter was complaining. She looked around and said go for it MOM no cops !!!
You do not need a new bottom end for 6 PSI and less.