it's fine thanks

 

 

And now you understand why some people lock themselves in their C6 and then call 911 for help, when all they have to do is open the glovebox and read the owners manual.

 

 

 

Well, I guess in this day and age, you deserve a 1st place trophy for getting one out of three correct.

 

 

Is that a new way of saying you don't have a clue as to what's going on but feel the need to post anyway?

 

 

 

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I think Racer, and most of us out there in the real world and not stuck in a manual somewhere, have proven that.

 

The diagram and instructions I posted in the attachment are the same ones used in every Service Manual from 1997 through 2009. The 2009 manual has a little more info on the possibility that a ramp may be required to get a ZR1 high enough to put lift arms under it. Other than that it is identical for 13 model years. I have the DVD version of the manual that lets me look at all of those years plus I have a 2008 Paper Manual that has the same info.

I also checked the 2009 Owner's Manual which has diagrams from a slightly different view but show essentially show the same points and compared it with the 2002 Owner's Manual which shows basically the same thing as the 09 manual.

Bill

 

You don't need a block of wood. You do need to span across both edges of the cradle. That is the only problem I see in the one picture. One edge of the cradle is centered in the jackstand. There are adapters that convert the top of a jackstand so he could use them to span the cradle. The problem with using a block of wood with a jackstand is the very real possibility it could split along the grain if place wrong.

Bill

 

Has anyone ever seen or heard of a vette folding in half when they use Bugman's jacking points? I have used them many times when I use one jack and have NEVER folded my car in half, broken a cross member or any other damage.

 

I would suggest that it comes down to 'the manufacturer's recommended method' or the 'I've always done it this way and nothing bad has happened so far method' - one makes their own choices and accepts the results.

Lastly, some great innovations have come from exploring options other than those recommended . . . . . others were too dead to report their results :-)

 

Do it however you want, but it is a good idea to put something between the jack or jack stand and the contact point on the car. Here's why: Metal to metal contact can be slippery. If the car shifts or falls off the lifting or supporting equipment it gets ugly real fast. Additionally, in a contest between steel and aluminum the steel wins every time. Using a "block or pad", as recommended three separate times in the owner's manual, makes the lifting/supporting process safer and helps to prevent damage to the relatively fragile sub frames. If it's too hard to figure out which way to run the grain of a solid piece of wood, use plywood. Or a piece of carpet. Or a piece of rubber. Or???

Be safe and enjoy working on your car!

I'm sure you prove it every day. Real men don't need instructions!

No kidding

Very well said.

 

 

in respect for the missing avatar, may we all overcome our saddness.

 

My 2005 owner's manual shows no pictures whatsoever like the pictures here. In fact, it says nothing about lifting in the areas where we would use the "jacking pucks". It does say, "Lift the vehicle with the jack, making sure the jack spans at least two of the crossmember ribs". "Lift only in the areas shown in the pictures". There is nothing in my book about jacking the car from the side with "jacking pucks" or that it is OK to lift the car in that area.

 

What some people don't understand is that GM wrote the owner's manual for the end user, not a technician that has plenty of day to day experiences working on car. But even then they do have to write service manuals for the techs as, like the end user, they do not know it all.

It's very unlikely that the end user has a 4 point lift in their garage and damn well very unlikely they have one available if they are trying to jack the car on the side of the highway.

Yes, GM says you can lift the car by the frame rails in the service manual, but that is for when using a 4 point lift and by a skilled technician. GM does not put the service manual in the car when it's shipped from Bowling Green, for a reason. It's not intended for the end user.

GM has to write the owners manual for the end user, which normally is not a service technician using expensive lifts to work on the car.

In the end, do you believe GM knows more about your Corvette, or Bugman? If Bugman were to take a chart from the back of the service manual where it says to use GL5 in the differential, and then changed it to read "use ATF III" in the differential, and then posted it on the Internet, that it would then make it a GM recommended lubrucant, and everyone should drain the GL5 from their differential and replace it with ATF III? God, I hope not. But if the end user, surfing the web, does not know the difference between GL5 and ATF III, how is he supposed to know what is BS and what is not, that Bugman posted?