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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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So 99 bucks gets me everything I need to install this?/No extra cost?
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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So 99 bucks gets me everything I need to install this?/No extra cost?
Everything you need for a basic install on the head

If you choose to locate it somewhere else, you will need more
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Can i just install a catch can or do i have to clean my intake first.16.000 miles
I am thinking about buying the elite can is this one any good?

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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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Elite Engineering makes a wide variety of very fine products and that includes their catch can.

As far as cleaning your intake, it's probably not really necessary, but it wouldn't hurt either.

Just make sure you get everything buttoned back up properly.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Willfulone
Everything you need for a basic install on the head

If you choose to locate it somewhere else, you will need more
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Have our orders shipped?
Thanks.....
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Got mine yesterday. Thanks!
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Again, so what? Seriously? My big block 427 on my 1969 Camaro uses a PCV valve to evacuate all the oil vapours and such from the crank case (then it goes through the manifold into the combustion chamber). This has been happening since the beginning of time. 99.9% of people DO NOT use them in their Vettes with NO adverse affects. People say GM reads these blogs, the LS motors have been around for over 10 years and GM still does not incorporate these, go figure. To the people that use them... but please do not tell the other 99.9% that we are harming our motors, because we ARE NOT.
This is not comparing apples to apples. First I would assume you are talking about a engine with a carburetor versus FI, so doing a comparison between that system and what is going on today is a mute point. Second, emission standards was a far away thought in 1969 so that piece doesn't apply either. You assume GM is building these motors with your best interest in mind, versus building the motors to last the length of the warranty period. You are missing the emissions piece all together and the role it plays in GM doing what they are doing with the vented oil vapors. GM can be penalized or fined for not meeting these standards. However, they can not be fined by the owner who has to replace oil contaminated sensors not covered as part of the emissions system like a catalytic converter.

Whether you think a catch can is needed or not is your opinion, but to state they add no benefit is not true. They catch oil that would otherwise end up in your intake and over time will be burned in the combustion chamber, sent through the converter and out the tail pipe. Guess what is catching the burnt oil? Assuming continuous burning of small amounts of oil over time will not shorten the life of your converters is also wrong. My point is an oil catch can correctly installed has absolutely no detrimental impact on the life of the engine, but provides several short term and long term benefits that can buffer potential issues with the emissions system. I am absolutely sold on the benefits provided by catch cans and this was one of the first upgrades I completed on my Z06. By the way, I have already seen the proof they work.
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Have our orders shipped?
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Can the LS3 members that have had a DIY catch can install experience, please share the tricks to use so I can get at/access the PCV tube on the motor so I can remove it. I have unplugged the module just above but their remains alot of plumbing in the way and I don't especially have large hands. So far I have not been able to do much other than touch or hold the PCV certainly not enough to remove. The rest of the install I expect to be quite straight forward. Thanks
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Can the LS3 members that have had a DIY catch can install experience, please share the tricks to use so I can get at/access the PCV tube on the motor so I can remove it. I have unplugged the module just above but their remains alot of plumbing in the way and I don't especially have large hands. So far I have not been able to do much other than touch or hold the PCV certainly not enough to remove. The rest of the install I expect to be quite straight forward. Thanks
I feel your pain. This was my project last night, and my hands look like I've been fightin a cat... and lost.
I also unplugged the module above AND also unscrewed it (screw on the right). That will let you rotate that module and gives you a few more centimeters.
I could not get my hands/fingers down around those clamps to release them and get the ribbed tube off the intake/outlet for the catch can. After an hour and a half, I ended up taking a hack saw blade. The blade has a hole on each end to attach to the fame. I grabbed the pastic "pin" sticking out of the clamp, pulled it back and up, and pop, the top hose came off.
I then took a pair of pliers and a screwdriver. I pulled from the back and worked the hose back until it was straight, not a u shape. I could then rotate the bottom, outlet hose until I could see the same "pin". I poped it back and up and finally, I had the whole thing off.

Next step, the can. I got it on but am very unhappy with the look and installation. I tried a couple of places, but none of them really gave me any room. Right now, it's mostly under the plastic valve cover, and the bottom of the catch can is sitting on the some metal next to what I think are the heater hoses. I couldn't get the thing to fit mounted on the block. Right now, the bracket is in another hole, about 2 inches to the right, the bracket for the belt tensioner I think. The plastic valve cover is actually pretty hard down on the top rubber hose.

I've heard others have mounted them remotely, and I'd love to see some pictures of where others did. I think all you have to do is buy some more 3/8 hose, and I'll probably move mine at some point.

But, HUGE PITA with the LS3. At this point, not sure it was worth the effort. Time will tell.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by okbkvette
I feel your pain. This was my project last night, and my hands look like I've been fightin a cat... and lost.
I also unplugged the module above AND also unscrewed it (screw on the right). That will let you rotate that module and gives you a few more centimeters.
I could not get my hands/fingers down around those clamps to release them and get the ribbed tube off the intake/outlet for the catch can. After an hour and a half, I ended up taking a hack saw blade. The blade has a hole on each end to attach to the fame. I grabbed the pastic "pin" sticking out of the clamp, pulled it back and up, and pop, the top hose came off.
I then took a pair of pliers and a screwdriver. I pulled from the back and worked the hose back until it was straight, not a u shape. I could then rotate the bottom, outlet hose until I could see the same "pin". I poped it back and up and finally, I had the whole thing off.

Next step, the can. I got it on but am very unhappy with the look and installation. I tried a couple of places, but none of them really gave me any room. Right now, it's mostly under the plastic valve cover, and the bottom of the catch can is sitting on the some metal next to what I think are the heater hoses. I couldn't get the thing to fit mounted on the block. Right now, the bracket is in another hole, about 2 inches to the right, the bracket for the belt tensioner I think. The plastic valve cover is actually pretty hard down on the top rubber hose.

I've heard others have mounted them remotely, and I'd love to see some pictures of where others did. I think all you have to do is buy some more 3/8 hose, and I'll probably move mine at some point.

But, HUGE PITA with the LS3. At this point, not sure it was worth the effort. Time will tell.
Good luck
Is the fittament issues due to the stock airbox and the resonator? Cause I just put a killer bee 2 on mine and that resonator no longer exists....
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I have the base coupe but didn't like the "box" on the side of the air intake so I purchased the Z06 stock air intake. Worked great/looks great. I have the elite catch can. Tonya
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Do you find oil in your CC after you installed it ? cause when I removed my stock box and checked my MAF it was clean as a whistle....???
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Do you find oil in your CC after you installed it ? cause when I removed my stock box and checked my MAF it was clean as a whistle....???
I just went out & checked mine.. I hadn't checked it since I installed it.. been cold/snowy here so my car had been wrapped up in the garage. Since I installed it, bout 100 miles, driving no more than 55mph, there was less than .5 ounce in the can...
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^^ interesting ....if its catching something thats worth it I think...didnt think it would catch anything...gonna have to buy one!

Does the elite catch can come with everything to install including instructions? best place to purchase? How much?
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^^ interesting ....if its catching something thats worth it I think...didnt think it would catch anything...gonna have to buy one!

Does the elite catch can come with everything to install including instructions? best place to purchase? How much?
Send me your email & I will send you a pic of my elite can installed. Its up to you.. I will also send u a pm.
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Mine was about 1/3-1/2 full after 1 year of 'normal' Vette driving.
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Is the fittament issues due to the stock airbox and the resonator? Cause I just put a killer bee 2 on mine and that resonator no longer exists....
I just can't see swapping out the LS-3 stock CAI just to be able to install a catch can. This then becomes something like a 500 dollar upgrade (or more after a re-tune). From all I've read, there isn't much of a performance upgrade other than losing the resonator box. My EE CC sits under the fuel rail cover like many of the others, is a bit of a pain to get to for cleaning - I remove it from the bracket for cleaning, but all-in-all, does remove oil from the crankcase gasses which I can only believe will reduce engine deposits.

One unanswerable question is, does the oil from the crankcase help lubricate the valve stems and by reducing the oil, will that cause valve problems sometime down the road? We ran into this problem with unleaded fuel.

I have been meaning to contact EE to find out if they have engineered a different bracket for the LS-3 installation to make it easier to maintain. I've wanted to design my own and send it to them for fabrication but have just not had the time.

Bye the way, does anyone know where to get the unusual engine fasteners? Cad plated bolts and aluminum heads do not make a good mix. I removed one external bolt and it appeared to be plated, maybe by aluminum, certainly not Cadmium or Stainless Steel (another bad combination). It would be worth it to me, I'm OCD about stuff like that.

Mike
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Catch cans are very popular. So popular in fact, they wrote a song about them

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