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From: Hamilton Square NJ, Ocean City N. J. Key Biscayne Fla.
Originally Posted by JoesC5
70% of new C6 buyers for the past two years are not interested in having the most comfortable, practical and best handling vette. Must be something other then those excuses as to why 70% of the people buy GS's, Z06's and ZR1's.
Couldn't have said it any better. Widebody, big brakes/tires, hood scoop, brake ducts, all the way.
70% of new C6 buyers for the past two years are not interested in having the most comfortable, practical and best handling vette. Must be something other then those excuses as to why 70% of the people buy GS's, Z06's and ZR1's.
But that means 30% are interested in those attributes.
When Z06 sales dropped to only 4%, it became apparent that power wasn't the biggest appeal.
But that means 30% are interested in those attributes.
When Z06 sales dropped to only 4%, it became apparent that power wasn't the biggest appeal.
Isn't 30% a minority? When does a minority rule(other then in our government )?
True that Z06 sales dropped, big time, but the GS is a Z51 on steriods. People still wanted performance mixed with style. ZR1 one sales didn't drop as much as the Z06, but for 2011, the Z06 production jumped 76%.
I want to thank all of you for honest answers: Please don' stop!!!!
1) Spent three days at Bondurant in a Zo6,I almost bought one (2010), but raised the the concerns mentioned in my blog.
2) Had a 2000 coupe auto Just didn't do it for me
3) Had a couple hot cars in the 60's
4) I live in the midwest so winters are a problem --Probably store it
5) this car WILL NOT be a garage queen
6) fortunately money is not a problem
7) A loaded GS seems to fit the bill
One other question no one seems to answer: What about road and/or exhaust noise? Can you hold a descent conversation Don't tell me to buy a Cadilac!!
Again thanks in advance Jim
I want to thank all of you for honest answers: Please don' stop!!!!
1) Spent three days at Bondurant in a Zo6,I almost bought one (2010), but raised the the concerns mentioned in my blog.
2) Had a 2000 coupe auto Just didn't do it for me
3) Had a couple hot cars in the 60's
4) I live in the midwest so winters are a problem --Probably store it
5) this car WILL NOT be a garage queen
6) fortunately money is not a problem
7) A loaded GS seems to fit the bill
One other question no one seems to answer: What about road and/or exhaust noise? Can you hold a descent conversation Don't tell me to buy a Cadilac!!
Again thanks in advance Jim
Any of the Corvette models with stock exhaust will not prevent you from listening to the radio or having a conversation and there is no drone from the OEM exhaust system to prevent conversation or induce fatigue on a long trip. Convertibles are probably a little more quiet on the road then a coupe with the top up. Less area behind the driver to echo road noise but a coupe is just fine. I've done several thousand plus mile trips in my coupe with my wife and never found it to be an issue.
I am also in the market. I am going with the GS, because I love the way the Z looks but don't need all the power. A little better ride with the GS also.
I just picked up my GS and love it. The way to go if you are not going to track the car and need 505HP. All the comforts and plenty of power. More is less in (Both) your cases.
I want to thank all of you for honest answers: Please don' stop!!!!
1) Spent three days at Bondurant in a Zo6,I almost bought one (2010), but raised the the concerns mentioned in my blog.
2) Had a 2000 coupe auto Just didn't do it for me
3) Had a couple hot cars in the 60's
4) I live in the midwest so winters are a problem --Probably store it
5) this car WILL NOT be a garage queen
6) fortunately money is not a problem
7) A loaded GS seems to fit the bill
One other question no one seems to answer: What about road and/or exhaust noise? Can you hold a descent conversation Don't tell me to buy a Cadilac!!
Again thanks in advance Jim
Jim- GS with NPP exhaust option. Opens at 3,500RPM. Buy Mild to Wild switch which is a 8min DIY project. Allows you to open at lower RPM when you want it. Can't imagine based on what you are saying that you have any need for the Z06. load up the GS and hit the road!!
OEM tires do get noisey as they wear. Since funds are not a problem, Michelin can solve that problem for you. Personally I'd stay with run flats since it's going to be used on trips. Brakes on a GS or Z06 produce a lot of dust. Here again, there are some great after market brakes for street cars that do away with the dust problem.
I had no long distance travel problems with my 09 Z06 but my 2LZ did not have a passenger power seat. This did bother the wife at times on long trips. This too can be corrected with a 3LZ.
OEM tires do get noisey as they wear. Since funds are not a problem, Michelin can solve that problem for you. Personally I'd stay with run flats since it's going to be used on trips. Brakes on a GS or Z06 produce a lot of dust. Here again, there are some great after market brakes for street cars that do away with the dust problem.
I had no long distance travel problems with my 09 Z06 but my 2LZ did not have a passenger power seat. This did bother the wife at times on long trips. This too can be corrected with a 3LZ.
Best of luck.
I agree. Dump the Goodyears, as soon as they wear out, with either Michelin or Bridgestone. I went with the Bridgestones(and they are quieter) plus I added a BlockIt mat to the rear compartment and behind the seats.
For best tire wear and long trip, GT comfort, look at a base model with F55 suspension and the J55 (formerly Z51 pkg) brakes.
Next step up would be a Grand Sport with F55 and it already has BIG brakes and wheels and faster wearing tires.
Z06 would be my last choice for trippin'.
Rick,
Have you driven a Grand Sport on a long trip? Have you driven a Z06 on a long trip? Or are you jumping on the Z06 hater wagon because you don't own one?
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Originally Posted by talon90
Any of the Corvette models with stock exhaust will not prevent you from listening to the radio or having a conversation and there is no drone from the OEM exhaust system to prevent conversation or induce fatigue on a long trip. Convertibles are probably a little more quiet on the road then a coupe with the top up. Less area behind the driver to echo road noise but a coupe is just fine. I've done several thousand plus mile trips in my coupe with my wife and never found it to be an issue.
Stock exhaust is quiet. The NPP will growl a bit once open, but without headers or a cam, it is still relatively quiet. The Goodyears are a bit noisy, and changing the tires to something else maybe be in order.
I haven't driven a coupe, so I cannot comment on the difference between the convertible and the coupe. I would imagine that contrary to what was said above that the convertible is a bit louder than the coupe?
No matter, because that slight difference should not be your deciding factor of a coupe to vert! That is personal preference. Good luck on your choice!
No wonder I've been tired lately,I thought I was coming down with the Flu or something. My wife also, she goes to bed early every time we go for more than a 50 mile ride. My god ,have some of these owners even driven or owned a Z?
Yea man, my Z rides so rough I have started wearing a mouth piece because I keep biting my tongue.. I also wear a helmet now in my Z (even not on the track) because it's so rough that I keep banging my head against the window even on smooth roads.
I have even replaced some of the disc's in my back from taking a couple of 2-3 hour trips. Car is just brutal.. I totally regret buying it..
My radio also jumps stations on it;s own the car rides so rough dam GM. If I take a quick trip to the store , I often have to drink one of those 5 hour energy drinks cuz my Z just "wears me out"
Right on the money. A Z06 will wear you and your passenger out on a trip. Unless you will be doing track days, a base with F55 or a GS with F55 will give you all the power you need for public roads, and be MUCH more comfortable on trips.
Two part question for you
First, Have you ever taken a Z on a long road trip?
Second, If you have did the Z have the runflat tires on it?
The reason I ask is everybody on this forum knows the stock runflats are very hard and noisy. My Z has non runflats and the ride is very smooth and quiet. My wife says my car rides better than my c5 coupe and that was a pretty good ride. The Z gets beat up pretty good because of its ride but really the tires have a lot to do with that. I have heard base and GS people even change the tires for better ride and noise. Like I said before I am crazy but I like taking my on road trips it does everything a base and GS will do
70% of new C6 buyers for the past two years are not interested in having the most comfortable, practical and best handling vette. Must be something other then those excuses as to why 70% of the people buy GS's, Z06's and ZR1's.
Your exactly right! For most buyers it is all about looks and image, and hasn't got a damn thing to do with being practical, comfortable, or buying the best handling vehicle for the everyday roads on which they drive exclusively. The magnetic adjustible suspension option, although standard on the ZR1 and virtually every supercar on the road today, doesn't sell all that well where it is an electable option, certainly not as well as CHROME wheels, or vinyl stripes on fenders. The majority of Vette buyers also choose an automatic torque conveter transmission over a standard transmission when given the option, even though the Corvette is supposed to be a sports car. What does THAT tell you?
Your exactly right! For most buyers it is all about looks and image, and hasn't got a damn thing to do with being practical, comfortable, or buying the best handling vehicle for the everyday roads on which they drive exclusively. The magnetic adjustible suspension option, although standard on the ZR1 and virtually every supercar on the road today, doesn't sell all that well where it is an electable option, certainly not as well as CHROME wheels, or vinyl stripes on fenders. The majority of Vette buyers also choose an automatic torque conveter transmission over a standard transmission when given the option, even though the Corvette is supposed to be a sports car. What does THAT tell you?
Hello, is there someone here whining again, Hello? Hello? Must of been nothing important. Carry on people.
Your exactly right! For most buyers it is all about looks and image, and hasn't got a damn thing to do with being practical, comfortable, or buying the best handling vehicle for the everyday roads on which they drive exclusively. The magnetic adjustible suspension option, although standard on the ZR1 and virtually every supercar on the road today, doesn't sell all that well where it is an electable option, certainly not as well as CHROME wheels, or vinyl stripes on fenders. The majority of Vette buyers also choose an automatic torque conveter transmission over a standard transmission when given the option, even though the Corvette is supposed to be a sports car. What does THAT tell you?