l've found that as a rule,...you 'vette folks are suma the nicest folks around,...and i'ma porsche guy![but love vettes too],...so it's only the very rare person who is obnoxious!,...getta take the bad with the good a guess!,...and yes, most TRUE car guys and girls respect ALL cool, fast cars!,...even vipers and gtrs....wouldn't get one myself,...but diff. strokes for diff. folks and all,...peace out!

 

I just got back from a trip to the NCM from Long Island NY. The only thing wrong with the Z06 is that the suspension will jar your teeth on bad roads. On the Interstate it cruised real well and using Shell 93 v power it got 30.7 mpg. Not as good going on sunoco 93 only 28. But other tan that its a great car for trips. My wife who could care less about cars commented that it was quite comfortable. Cant be beat in my book

Clif

 

I would argue that one with the mechanical/mental ability to appreciate the advantages of a Z06 should also have the metal capacity to appreciate said benefits are very questionable for a street/cruising car.

So I would ask, if you are willing to pay the premium price and operating costs for a street use Z06... can you really say image has nothing to do with it?

The OP of the thread started by asking about which model was was best for trips and pleasure drives, expressing concerns about tire wear and noise. My mental ability tells me the track prowess of a Z06 is probably not his top priority. In the end I suppose it is my mental capacity that allows me to keep those original points in mind.

 

Did I strike a nerve? I was responding to a paticular post regarding the Z ownership as a "statis thing" not what the op had asked.All threads go off the mark from time to time or are you a Newbie?

 

Actually if you review the posts it would seem that I am the one that struck a nerve. If trying to keep advice relevant to the OP is a "newbie" thing on this forum, then yes I am a newbie. Much prefer it to being pretentious.

 

By your logic, some would say that 430 HP is too much for the steet, and even having a "base" vette is a waste of performance if you never track it..so why even get a Vette? Also, I would not say there is a HUGE difference in price between a base vette and a GS. Alot depends on the option package.

Lastly, those that are saying the Z06 is not good for long road trips..I'd be curious as to how many have actually taken a long road trip (or any extended ride) in a Z06 to back up their comments.

 

No, that's not my logic, my logic did not include any fallacies. Go back and review if necessary.

 

Jim congrats on the retirement! I agree with the posts that lean toward the base or GS models. I also suggest that trips imply luggage. If your significant other is similar to mine, the vert may press you on luggage capacity. I think a careful eye comparing the luggage space on the coup and vert is an important point not otherwise mentioned here. Good shopping.

 

I took a ride with my friend up to Dallas a couple of weeks ago to pick up his new GS.
We drove his Z06 up and I drove his Z06 back.
I've been in a number of Z06's on the street and track but this was the first semi long trip I've taken in one. From his house to Dallas and back it's a 10 hour round trip.
I own a GS so I think I can offer a good comparison.
They both ride the same, although the road noise in the Z06 is a bit louder, something I attribute to the Z06's lack of sound deadening insulation from the factory. Passing trucks and slower cars only required a quick down shift and a slight stab to the go pedal, although not much different than what I'd do in my GS.
Aside from that, the Z06 was a joy to drive, and there were no other discernable differences that I could notice going down the road even at semi illegal speeds.

If I didn't want an auto trans and a removable roof the Z06 would not have any negatives that would discourage me from taking a long trip in it.

 

[QUOTE=laconiajack;1578499311]Your exactly right! For most buyers it is all about looks and image, and hasn't got a damn thing to do with being practical, comfortable, or buying the best handling vehicle for the everyday roads on which they drive exclusively. The magnetic adjustible suspension option, although standard on the ZR1 and virtually every supercar on the road today, doesn't sell all that well where it is an electable option, certainly not as well as CHROME wheels, or vinyl stripes on fenders. The majority of Vette buyers also choose an automatic torque conveter transmission over a standard transmission when given the option, even though the Corvette is supposed to be a sports car. What does THAT tell you?[/QUOTE]

Just because a car has an auto trans it doesn't disqualify it as a sports car. I know more than a few very fast drivers that drive auto cars on the track that are faster than their manual counterparts.

 

Thats an apples to oranges argument though. As the stock Vette with an auto transmission comes with a very relaxed ride, noise output and composure that any licensed driver can operate properly. It can be as easily daily driven as other vehicle one could purchase. Even more than some considering the gas milage & cargo space. That 430hp is standard, is almost a bonus. Even the Cadillac XLR is built off the same principles of comfort, composure and refinement.

Where the argument differs in the Z06 is first the price. You have to pay more, to get more. The Z06 is not just an additional cost to the wallet, but an entirely *different* Corvette. The aluminum frame, exotic lightweight materials, fixed roof, track suspension, manual only transmission, less padding & sound dampening, wider wheels/tires, beefier brakes, wider body and use of lighter materials.. all make that Corvette experience much more "raw" than the standard body coupe. There is also no Cadillac luxury version built off the Z06 platform.

While both vehicles can be bought simply for looks (which is honestly what most owners purchase them for). Theres still no doubt one leans greatly to being a comfortable, but still sporty passenger vehicle.. while the other leans to being a raw track beast. The engineers who built the vehicles knew that purpose and designed each to be such. I'm not saying a Z06 cant be used for a daily driver, but I am saying the Z06 was built with a totally different purpose than the standard body coupe. They are two very different vehicles that look very much alike.

The GS.. really is the happy medium between both cars. Both in design & in price.

 

Yes it is your logic, look at your above post AGAIN

You clearly stated that the GS/Z06/ZR1 are a waste unless you track the car.

You have your opinion and your entitled to it of course, but many of us will dispute your statement that we *wasted* our money because we did not buy a base C6.

Are you using all 430HP of your base vette every single time you drive it on the street? I would guess the answer is NO.. so then I would come back and say you wasted your money then too

maybe someone only tracks their GS or Z twice a year..or maybe only 1 time.. they enjoy the car in different ways and spirited driving on the street. Not a waste.

 

Yes, the Z06 was designed for more track duty, and yes you pay more for more power and performance, but I would not go as far as to say it's an Enitrely different car than the base C6.

I'm just struggling with this notion that there is this HUGE difference in the way the Z06 drives, and many people are posting that the car is uncomfortable on long trips, or even daily driving,, when many have never even driven one Yes you can feel a difference on bumpy roads... but my experience is the Z drives much like the base c6 if not almost the same if you were just driving it around town, or on an easy cruise.

 

If you want automatic and/or convertible, go with the GS.
Can't get those in Z06 and ZR1.

Really rub it in to us working folk. Get the ZR1. Enjoy regardless of choice.

 

 

You seem hell bent on making an argument where there isn't one.

You are taking my comments outside of the frame of the original post discussion. That comment was relative to the OP who clearly stated he intended to use the car for vacation trips and weekend drives and was concerned about tire life. Hard to justify a Z06 for that.

I'm not talking to you anymore. You're kind of a dick.

 

 

awwwweee you got your panties all in a bunch didn't ya if you can't handle a debate or someone not agreeing with you then maybe you shouldn't post.

you resort to name calling please.. I am

 

Them crazy noobs...
Frank, I think you're declared the winner.

 

Hey Franktank, there are a lot of experts in this forum that know everything there is to know about every model made. Even if they have never been in one let alone drive one You will never win an argument with these guys because they know more about the car you drive than you do Just let it go there will be another thread like this next week